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timmy
09-09-2012, 10:13 PM
put them on faggot patrol

timmy
09-09-2012, 10:13 PM
ruby why you gotta do this man why you gotta be an impartial admin

timmy
09-09-2012, 10:14 PM
ruby doesnt care if you make bad posts he wil look after you

pilleater
09-09-2012, 10:14 PM
fuck you

lnopia the great
09-09-2012, 10:15 PM
ruby cant live with em cant live without em

syncan aka ken post jr
09-09-2012, 10:15 PM
he pays the bills around here what can you do, i dont want to pay clay 1000's of dollors a month to admin a forum for me, so i guess we just have to learn to live with it

clay
09-09-2012, 10:16 PM
he pays the bills around here what can you do, i dont want to pay clay 1000's of dollors a month to admin a forum for me, so i guess we just have to learn to live with it

i'll give you the we've molested children together discount and only charge you 800 a month

NortyNippy
09-09-2012, 10:16 PM
your hand

stalker virus
09-09-2012, 10:16 PM
FJS Industries wins again

Camoron
09-09-2012, 10:17 PM
well he may cosntantly unban the worst fucking posters this forum has ever seen but at least we have lots of smilies :iia:

NortyNippy
09-09-2012, 10:17 PM
ruby doesnt care if you make bad posts he wil look after youlucky for you

Sedimentos de Lavado
09-09-2012, 10:17 PM
ruby why you gotta do this man why you gotta be an impartial admin

who do you think keeps asking him to? :iia:

Gentleman Doli
09-09-2012, 10:18 PM
almighty hole
who art between tims cheeks
thy blood we pray it ever leaks
oh banish from this holy realm
those who try to overwhelm
your damaged hole our safe protector
tims hole tims hole tims hole forever

pilleater
09-09-2012, 10:18 PM
:gives:

clay
09-09-2012, 10:18 PM
does anyone have :barrypies:

rootbeer
09-09-2012, 10:18 PM
does anyone have :barrypies:
the fridge is all the way across the house im not gonna check

syncan aka ken post jr
09-09-2012, 10:19 PM
lisa is the new tim

Sedimentos de Lavado
09-09-2012, 10:19 PM
clay have you tried boysenberry pie

Gentleman Doli
09-09-2012, 10:19 PM
but srously, tims hole jokes aside {and they are fuckking hilarious btw... i cant stop laughing about tims hole}} please clay delete them and then they have to reregister at least.

syncan aka ken post jr
09-09-2012, 10:20 PM
de admin ruby and tell him it was for his own good clay

Sedimentos de Lavado
09-09-2012, 10:21 PM
lol gendarmes went to seminary school

Gentleman Doli
09-09-2012, 10:21 PM
Hm, it remninds me of a time I was deleted by a certain tyrannical admin who was overstepping the powers constitutionally givee him and then a fake plebecite was held to calm the nerves of the angry populace, and now when deletion is truely needed i do not see the tyrant i onley see a snickers bar

Camoron
09-09-2012, 10:22 PM
i know the chunky that left this chunky

stalker virus
09-09-2012, 10:23 PM
i do not fucks with any fake plebecites

maks
09-09-2012, 10:25 PM
clay please make me a mod again so I can't be ignored and I'll handle this situation. I promise I won't spamlist anyone.

stalker virus
09-09-2012, 10:27 PM
clay please make me admin so i can abuse the power

Gentleman Doli
09-09-2012, 10:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/7NJeB.jpg

timmy
09-09-2012, 10:27 PM
almighty hole
who art between tims cheeks
thy blood we pray it ever leaks
oh banish from this holy realm
those who try to overwhelm
your damaged hole our safe protector
tims hole tims hole tims hole forever

:giggle:

syncan aka ken post jr
09-09-2012, 10:28 PM
clay please treat your on set of diabetes, we need you around here for at least 20 more years cause who would guide us all along lifes journey if your laying in diabetic coma

NortyNippy
09-09-2012, 10:34 PM
lisa is the new tim
will you vag troll me?











please?

syncan aka ken post jr
09-09-2012, 10:35 PM
i am pretty glad i have no idea what that means i am even more happy with myself not wanting to know what that means and even more pleased that if you try to explain it to me i will not read that post

rootbeer
09-09-2012, 10:36 PM
as long as ur happy bro, thats all that counts.

syncan aka ken post jr
09-09-2012, 10:37 PM
vag trolling rolling deep

Gentleman Doli
09-09-2012, 10:37 PM
A "Vag troll" is a litle creature lives inside of a womans vagina and to get inside you have to answer 3 riddles and guess the trolls name, this is challenging for even the most advanced tiers of ytmnsfwers.

rootbeer
09-09-2012, 10:38 PM
pillowpants

Plug Drugs
09-09-2012, 10:39 PM
Vag - "Vaj", is the grodiest sounding word for twat, with "snatch" being a close second. Those two words make it sound like a moist pocket for storing lint and loose change in

Plug Drugs
09-09-2012, 10:40 PM
and "twat" makes me picture some blonde (or red-haired) curve-less girl with an overbite who lives in a trailer park

maks
09-09-2012, 10:40 PM
pillowpants

congratulations that's the post that got you a 5th rep bar

syncan aka ken post jr
09-09-2012, 10:40 PM
thanks plug drugs for weighing in on this i give all your posts great credence as i tend to take alot of advice from junkies on the interent

maks
09-09-2012, 10:40 PM
Vag - "Vaj", is the grodiest sounding word for twat, with "snatch" being a close second. Those two words make it sound like a moist pocket for storing lint and loose change in

Vaj is an indian name

Camoron
09-09-2012, 10:40 PM
faggot patrol the vag troll by a emotional pain reason

NortyNippy
09-09-2012, 10:41 PM
Vag - "Vaj", is the grodiest sounding word for twat, with "snatch" being a close second. Those two words make it sound like a moist pocket for storing lint and loose change inwhat about

steaming, oozing slop hole

?

NortyNippy
09-09-2012, 10:42 PM
thanks plug drugs for weighing in on this i give all your posts great credence as i tend to take alot of advice from junkies on the interentlol

Gentleman Doli
09-09-2012, 10:43 PM
Vaj is actually m0ndes moms name

rootbeer
09-09-2012, 10:43 PM
congratulations that's the post that got you a 5th rep bar
fjs wins again

stalker virus
09-09-2012, 10:44 PM
lol
lol

maks
09-09-2012, 10:44 PM
fjs wins again

I'm not even supposed to be here today

Plug Drugs
09-09-2012, 10:46 PM
what about

steaming, oozing slop hole

?
that's too long and poetic for every day conversation, but decently disgusting nonetheless
as for attractive sounding names, i'm a fan of pink fluffy fuckwallet

Camoron
09-09-2012, 10:47 PM
what if you just told nortynippy youre going to damage her hole

Plug Drugs
09-09-2012, 10:49 PM
opiates damage my hole

maks
09-09-2012, 10:49 PM
look at this bitch one 12 hour ban and all of a sudden she's trying desperately to fit in... I thought she had more fight in her

syncan aka ken post jr
09-09-2012, 10:53 PM
no your fucking terrible ob your not even at tim 2008 leval posting

Camoron
09-09-2012, 10:53 PM
hey OB now that your irrelevant maybe you could stop posting forever yeah?

timmy
09-09-2012, 11:17 PM
hey OB now that your irrelevant maybe you could stop posting forever yeah?

this is the greatest idea since the boomerang

Gentleman Doli
09-09-2012, 11:26 PM
hey tim reminder that youre currently under the hegemony of the british sovereign

maks
09-09-2012, 11:27 PM
hey tim reminder that youre currently under the hegemony of the british sovereign

yeah he should kill that decrepit old cunt

timmy
09-09-2012, 11:34 PM
god save the queen

maks
09-09-2012, 11:39 PM
barry seriously kill the queen I'll give you a dollar. I'd do it but it would make a more powerful statement if it was one of her subjects.

Gentleman Doli
09-09-2012, 11:44 PM
whats so bad about the queen

maks
09-09-2012, 11:51 PM
whats so bad about the queen

I think we as a species are better than monarchy, it's dark ages bullshit, and it's exploitive. also I fucking hate useless people.

Gentleman Doli
09-09-2012, 11:58 PM
fail

maks
09-10-2012, 12:03 AM
the president has done something to become president and will not automatically be president until the day he dies it's not a perfect system but it beats the fuck out of monarchy. if I lived in a country where I'm expected to bow down when a particular rich old cunt walks by, I'd never be able to respect myself. It's contrary to my belief that people are born equal, it's bullshit and she needs to die for perpetuating it because historically the only way to rid yourself of a monarchy is to kill the monarchs

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:08 AM
maybe if over 80% of people like her and want her to stay she should be able to stay since thats the epitome of democracy

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:11 AM
also thats actually not true at all, greece and italy both removed their monarchs by (very close) plebiscites/military coups, austria-hungary and germany both deposed their monarchs in republican revolutions, france deposed charles x in 1830, louis-philippe in 1848 and then napoleon iii in 1870 (none of them died), the monarchs of romania, bulgaria, albania and yugoslavia were all overthrown in communist coups (and survived)

maks
09-10-2012, 12:12 AM
hitler was democratically elected are you suggesting we should have left him in power?

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:16 AM
#1) the queen isnt hitler and hitler was only elected because germany got rid of its monarchs
#2) the institution of constitutional monarchy itself is probably one of the best in the world since it provides stability, legitimacy, and an emergency switch that can be pulled when necessary - like in the instance of hitler rising to power. the reason it is inherited is because it is one person who has spent their entire lives preparing for that one moment when they need to step in and do something important. when the netherlands were invaded by germany during ww2, queen wilhelmina practically ran the resistance herself and lent immediate credibility to the government-in-exile, the spanish king (who was only restored in 1970) stared down a fascist military coup that wanted to strengthen the powers of the king and forced them to stand down with nothing but a television speech, and the emperor of japan was one of the only things that managed to keep the japanese subdued after ww2

symbols are important and monarchs with virtually no power are fine in my book

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:20 AM
you need to understand that the westminster system - and in fact the parliamentary system in general - is totally divorced from the system we have in the us and many with a parliamentary system have powerless presidents who are elected by the people or appointed by the legislature, virtually unknown in their countries, and are just political stooges placed there by their party. how many people are paying money to go and see the president of germany? do you know who the president of germany is

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:22 AM
australia would suck as a republic, the way the democracy works right now is fine with the attorney general, there is no good system drawn up for becoming a republic and until then the only "good" reason for aus to become a republic is "to become our own country" or "because monarchy sucks"... if we became a republic our democratic system would become worse off.

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 12:22 AM
Doli you're a fucking ass. You need to do some real research on who the fucking old bitch is.

I bet you like the Pope too?

http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:22 AM
god save thee queen

maks
09-10-2012, 12:23 AM
#1) the queen isnt hitler and hitler was only elected because germany got rid of its monarchs
#2) the institution of constitutional monarchy itself is probably one of the best in the world since it provides stability, legitimacy, and an emergency switch that can be pulled when necessary - like in the instance of hitler rising to power. the reason it is inherited is because it is one person who has spent their entire lives preparing for that one moment when they need to step in and do something important. when the netherlands were invaded by germany during ww2, queen wilhelmina practically ran the resistance herself and lent immediate credibility to the government-in-exile, the spanish king (who was only restored in 1970) stared down a fascist military coup that wanted to strengthen the powers of the king and forced them to stand down with nothing but a television speech, and the emperor of japan was one of the only things that managed to keep the japanese subdued after ww2

symbols are important and monarchs with virtually no power are fine in my book

#1) the queen is worse than hitler and hitler was elected because the weimars were buttfaces and used kaiser wilheim to give legitimacy to his dictatorship by drawing parallels with the monarchy, he even held a state funeral for the fucking guy
#2) for every example you find of kings doing something noble I can find 50 of them being either useless or detrimental and we both know it so I'm not even going to bother listing specifics. you'd run out before I got halfway through caligula.

maks
09-10-2012, 12:25 AM
australia would suck as a republic, the way the democracy works right now is fine with the attorney general, there is no good system drawn up for becoming a republic and until then the only "good" reason for aus to become a republic is "to become our own country" or "because monarchy sucks"... if we became a republic our democratic system would become worse off.

the queen serves literally no purpose in your government other than leeching money and attention. australia would be the same exact country without her.

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:26 AM
the queen serves literally no purpose in your government other than leeching money and attention. australia would be the same exact country without her.

australia actually doesnt pay any money for the queen except when shes visiting the country, which doesnt happen very often, and when she does studies have shown that she actually brings in more revenue for the state than she requires.

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:28 AM
#1) the queen is worse than hitler and hitler was elected because the weimars were buttfaces and used kaiser wilheim to give legitimacy to his dictatorship by drawing parallels with the monarchy, he even held a state funeral for the fucking guy
#2) for every example you find of kings doing something noble I can find 50 of them being either useless or detrimental and we both know it so I'm not even going to bother listing specifics. you'd run out before I got halfway through caligula.

lmao lets see, hitler: killed millions of jews and plunged the entire world into war. the queen: likes corgis and rides around on horses and inspects the guard and people like her.

yeah except we arent talking about every monarch in the world, we're talking about constitutional monarchies in the 20th century. the institution has changed, it sounds like youre the one stuck in the dark ages if you think that monarchy is any more "dark ages" than a republic (hint: republics were around in the 3rd century and even further back)

the fact of the matter is the british parliament could pass an act tomorrow getting rid of the monarchy altogether - no constitutional amendments, unlike australia or canada or the 13 other countries with the queen as head of state - and if the people wanted that you can rest assured it would happen, but they dont and so it doesnt, so it's a complete non-issue except among republican elites who think they know better than the common person and in so doing, pretty ironically, are depriving them of that same democratic principle they claim to try and defend

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 12:29 AM
australia would suck as a republic, the way the democracy works right now is fine with the attorney general, there is no good system drawn up for becoming a republic and until then the only "good" reason for aus to become a republic is "to become our own country" or "because monarchy sucks"... if we became a republic our democratic system would become worse off.

http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:29 AM
governor general* not the attorney...
the governor general is appointed by the queen to represent the monarch...
this link gives information on his purpose, which is important in our democratic system http://www.gg.gov.au/content.php/category/id/1/title/role
changing to a republic would require good planning we cant just jump into it

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 12:29 AM
god save thee queen

http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:30 AM
the queen serves literally no purpose in your government other than leeching money and attention. australia would be the same exact country without her.

also, she actually serves a huge purpose, read up on the 1975 Australian constitutional crisis and whitlam's dismissal by the governor general, the monarchy is literally the foundation of the state

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)

okay marco why dont you drop the bomb and tell me why we would not have a jaded political system without the governor general

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:30 AM
you dont even know what a governor general is you asshole

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 12:30 AM
i think britain keeps the monarchy out of tradition more than anything, and how exactly would britain go about telling the old farts that they're no longer royalty?
Unless they all tragically died in the same freak accident and the government of britain decides to just discontinue the monarchy altogether, I think they're stuck with them

maks
09-10-2012, 12:31 AM
australia actually doesnt pay any money for the queen except when shes visiting the country, which doesnt happen very often, and when she does studies have shown that she actually brings in more revenue for the state than she requires.

then they'll have plenty left over to build a guillotine

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:31 AM
no one has written good guidelines to our political system if it were to become a republic, that is what needs to be done first before having a bunch of anti monarchist hooligans trying to convince everyone in a referendum to vote for becoming a republic

maks
09-10-2012, 12:33 AM
i think britain keeps the monarchy out of tradition more than anything, and how exactly would britain go about telling the old farts that they're no longer royalty?
Unless they all tragically died in the same freak accident and the government of britain decides to just discontinue the monarchy altogether, I think they're stuck with them

I wouldn't settle for anything less than a rusiian revolution style bloodbath. say what you want about the russians but they know how to handle a royal family

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 12:33 AM
you dont even know what a governor general is you asshole

http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:33 AM
i think britain keeps the monarchy out of tradition more than anything, and how exactly would britain go about telling the old farts that they're no longer royalty?
Unless they all tragically died in the same freak accident and the government of britain decides to just discontinue the monarchy altogether, I think they're stuck with them

if they got a bill through parliament abolishing the monarchy, then it would be abolished. that's that, there's nothing more to it since the united kingdom has no constitution. cromwell had parliament do something similar and then he became a dictator

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:34 AM
I wouldn't settle for anything less than a rusiian revolution style bloodbath. say what you want about the russians but they know how to handle a royal family

lmao you literally know nothing about this

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 12:34 AM
maks is the only one of you that has a clue. Shut Barry you ingnoramus.

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:35 AM
no one has written good guidelines to our political system if it were to become a republic, that is what needs to be done first before having a bunch of anti monarchist hooligans trying to convince everyone in a referendum to vote for becoming a republic

australia actually voted down a referendum only 10 years ago and support for a republic has only gone down since then, similar things happened in st. vincent and the grenadines and tuvalu i think

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 12:38 AM
Doli would eat the Queens dried turds for breakfast.

http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:38 AM
ov[er 50% of the population approves of the monarchy in a fair, free election] the monarchy is undemocratic. wwell apparently different rules apply to monarchs than they do taxes since i dont remember ever voting for the estate tax

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:38 AM
australia actually voted down a referendum only 10 years ago and support for a republic has only gone down since then, similar things happened in st. vincent and the grenadines and tuvalu i think

that referendum was a failure before it was even started, most people know that the power the governor general holds over the prime minister is very important so they cant do bullshit like obama.

maks
09-10-2012, 12:39 AM
also, she actually serves a huge purpose, read up on the 1975 Australian constitutional crisis and whitlam's dismissal by the governor general, the monarchy is literally the foundation of the state

yes she can gut the government at her leisure and is empowered to do so based on who's snatch she was born out of and/or who she fucked, and you're actually in here defending that system

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:40 AM
when australia gave papua new guinea independence everyone thought that they would become independent as a republic, and the australian government even drafted up constitutions and shit for them, but the papuans were like no we want the queen. south africa became a republic in the 1960s in a whites-only referendum in order to get away from the governor general's interference with the discrimination against blacks (apartheid).

maks
09-10-2012, 12:41 AM
lmao you literally know nothing about this

I respect efficiency.

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 12:42 AM
Doli and Barry are good trained brainwashed slaves. Just like the Queen wants. Idiot subjects.

http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:43 AM
marco is a good brainwashed republic fag, just like the murican edumacation system wants. redneck.

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:43 AM
:insertlaughingsmileyhere:

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:44 AM
yes she can gut the government at her leisure and is empowered to do so based on who's snatch she was born out of and/or who she fucked, and you're actually in here defending that system

youre literally mouthing back the words that you were taught in kindergarten about how democracy = good and hereditary = bad while completely failing to see that the queen rules solely by the permission of the people over whom she is sovereign and at any time they could vote to remove her. further, the queen constitutionally can NOT gut the government at will - the governor-general can, yes, but the governor-general is actually appointed by the queen on the advice of the prime minister, which means in effect that it is the prime minister appointing the governor-general.

constitutionally the british parliament could vote and say that all scots will be slaughtered effective tomorrow and yes i am defending that system because custom mandate and tradition dictates that they do not, nor does the queen ever get involved except in the most drastic of emergencies (read: hitler killing everyone)

maks
09-10-2012, 12:44 AM
barry your entire country is at the mercy of one woman who doesn't even live there. that doesn't seem wrong to you?

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:46 AM
i would probably bow down to the queen and tell her i think shes doing great and maybe say she has nice hair today and that she looks really young and hope that she somehow lets me into her pants

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:46 AM
and when i blow in her i would scream GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 12:46 AM
websites like this are good fun to read http://home.earthlink.net/~loveguru/namoil.htm

they're written in the same style that ruby makes his megathreads

maks
09-10-2012, 12:46 AM
the queen constitutionally can NOT gut the government at will - the governor-general can, yes, but the governor-general is actually appointed by the queen

Are you even listening to yourself?

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 12:46 AM
like I said. Barry masturbated away what little brains he had.

http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:47 AM
barry your entire country is at the mercy of one woman who doesn't even live there. that doesn't seem wrong to you?

maybe you should try actually reading the australian constitution since it's not at her mercy at all and the queen actually can not intervene in the affairs of the Australian Commonwealth at all - and i mean even in the worst emergency, she couldn't - funnily enough constitutionally that role is reserved to her representative, the governor-general, who is appointed by the prime minister - just as the president of many republics is appointed by parliament. all power rests with the governor-general and the queen could not take it from him or her if she tried (this is all legal, by the way). youre honestly spouting some really uninformed bullshit

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:48 AM
the governor general keeps the prime minister in check, thats a better system than just having a president who can do pretty much what he wants when ever he wants without someone telling him he cant fuck everyone by going to war for no reason.

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:48 AM
Are you even listening to yourself?

the queen can not refuse the advice of the prime minister in appointing a governor-general. the prime minister, for all intents and purposes, appoints the governor-general

maks
09-10-2012, 12:49 AM
the governor general keeps the prime minister in check, thats a better system than just having a president who can do pretty much what he wants when ever he wants without someone telling him he cant fuck everyone by going to war for no reason.

the house and the senate can prevent the president from doing much of anything

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:50 AM
and hows that working, whats with all those executive orders obama is doing lol

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 12:50 AM
I hope the Chinese invade and fuck you all in the ass.


http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)

maks
09-10-2012, 12:50 AM
the queen can not refuse the advice of the prime minister in appointing a governor-general. the prime minister, for all intents and purposes, appoints the governor-general

I understand the concept, I was asking if you realize how stupid it all sounds

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:51 AM
you honestly need to get a much better understanding of how the westminster system works, the role of the "Crown" in parliament, etc, since most of what you're saying is just complete misinformation. for instance, all executive power rests with the queen but in reality it rests with the prime minister and his cabinet. you, by the way, dont get to bounce back and forth between calling her useless and the calling her an evil tyrant who can destroy the australian government at a moments notice

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 12:53 AM
my god Doli. They're all puppets. You ass.

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 12:53 AM
the governor general keeps the prime minister in check, thats a better system than just having a president who can do pretty much what he wants when ever he wants without someone telling him he cant fuck everyone by going to war for no reason.

the war in Iraq wasnt started because the president went "fuck everyone" and went to war with no reason; there was actually a vote to go to war that went through congress and passed... When a bunch of old fucks get together in a room, the big argument boils down to a word game, and the big argument in that vote essentially boiled down to whether or not Iraq even had rockets or other aerial devices capable of hitting another country, and intelligence reports on that were basically a big "I don't know, but we think so probably, maybe, I'd put money on it" - those intelligence reports were given to congress under the bush administration, mind you

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:53 AM
I understand the concept, I was asking if you realize how stupid it all sounds

it's not honestly any more stupid than george w. bush winning less than 50% of the popular vote and yet winning the election

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:54 AM
I hope the Chinese invade and fuck you all in the ass.


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dude... taht can happen to either of us... we're in the same boat nd if that happens i hope the western countries band together

timmy
09-10-2012, 12:54 AM
im gonna go worship the queen at my monarchy shrine cya guys later

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 12:54 AM
the war in Iraq wasnt started because the president went "fuck everyone" and went to war with no reason; there was actually a vote to go to war that went through congress and passed... When a bunch of old fucks get together in a room, the big argument boils down to a word game, and the big argument in that vote essentially boiled down to whether or not Iraq even had rockets or other aerial devices capable of hitting another country, and intelligence reports on that were basically a big "I don't know, but we think so probably, I'd put money on it" - those intelligence reports were given to congress under the bush administration, mind you

first of all junkie it wasnt a vote to go to war, there was no iraq war and the last "war" the united states was in was the second world war. also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution read the second paragraph for a good example of the house and senate keeping the president in check

maks
09-10-2012, 12:57 AM
it's not honestly any more stupid than george w. bush winning less than 50% of the popular vote and yet winning the election

I agree. Electoral collage needs to go to. But monarchies first, they've been a problem longer.

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 12:57 AM
I hope the Chinese invade and fuck you all in the ass.


http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)
we employ the chinese; why would they cut themselves off from the hand that feeds, doesn't make any fucking sense

maks
09-10-2012, 12:59 AM
dude... taht can happen to either of us... we're in the same boat nd if that happens i hope the western countries band together

of course australia hopes the western countries band together, you don't have nukes. if china invades australia, china is turned to ash. if china invades the US what the hell is australia going to do?

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 12:59 AM
first of all junkie it wasnt a vote to go to war, there was no iraq war and the last "war" the united states was in was the second world war. also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution read the second paragraph for a good example of the house and senate keeping the president in check

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

maks
09-10-2012, 01:00 AM
dont get to bounce back and forth between calling her useless and the calling her an evil tyrant who can destroy the australian government at a moments notice

I'm not, I consider her a useless evil tyrant.

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:00 AM
I agree. Electoral collage needs to go to. But monarchies first, they've been a problem longer.

they're not a problem anymore and if you honestly think people care about getting rid of the monarchy youre dead wrong. like i said if people wanted to get rid of it, believe me, it would go away. theres no cultural inertia when it comes to keeping monarchies anymore, but people like it and i do mean the vast majority of people living within those countries.

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:00 AM
I'm not, I consider her a useless evil tyrant.

okay show me what the last tyrannical thing she did was

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 01:03 AM
marco is a good brainwashed republic fag, just like the murican edumacation system wants. redneck.


I will always have my guns till they pry it from my cold dead hand.

I don't mean to pattronize,but they have brainwashed you real good.

you need to do some real investigation on the truth.


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Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 01:04 AM
you can call it whatever you want - war, "armed conflict", whatever the fuck it doesn't make a difference; the President had to ask congress politely "please let me go to war with Iraq" and they had to take a vote and approve. He didn't just say "fuck everyone" and go to war with whomever he wanted

maks
09-10-2012, 01:04 AM
okay show me what the last tyrannical thing she did was

when's the last time she let someone be forced or brainwashed into calling her 'your majesty'?

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:05 AM
getting rid of the monarchy wont save money, a "powerless president" (this is what you would get if a westminster system-country were to abolish the monarchy) is just as useless as the queen, requires an election cycle (expensive), would have many of the same "useless/tyrannical" powers, would be completely unknown (see the last five presidents of germany - try naming one) and therefore completely devoid of prestige, and would provide no tourism revenue

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:05 AM
when's the last time she let someone be forced or brainwashed into calling her 'your majesty'?

lmao youre kidding

maks
09-10-2012, 01:07 AM
lmao youre kidding

I'm not. Being bowed to is a crime against nature.

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:09 AM
I'm not. Being bowed to is a crime against nature.

okay weirdo whatever, bowing and calling her your majesty are different things. "The President of Ireland is addressed as Your Excellency or in the Irish language, a Shoilse. Alternatively, one may address the president simply as President or in the Irish language a Uachtaráin." The Irish people have been brainwashed and forced to call the irish president your excellency

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:11 AM
try not calling the queen your majesty and see what happens. i wonder if youll get arrested? give me a break, dude. also, julia gillard (prime minister of australia) got some flack from the press for not bowing, as did michelle obama and president obama (they all shook her hands instead) and guess what dude? the queen didnt give a shit.

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 01:12 AM
we employ the chinese; why would they cut themselves off from the hand that feeds, doesn't make any fucking sense

read Zbigniew Brzeznski's "The Grand Chess Board"

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:13 AM
i just want to remind you marks that marco currently is on your side in this argument

maks
09-10-2012, 01:14 AM
try not calling the queen your majesty and see what happens. i wonder if youll get arrested? give me a break, dude. also, julia gillard (prime minister of australia) got some flack from the press for not bowing, as did michelle obama and president obama (they all shook her hands instead) and guess what dude? the queen didnt give a shit.

I'd call her a cunt and spit in her face, and if obama has done that I'd be voting for him.

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 01:15 AM
read Zbigniew Brzeznski's "The Grand Chess Board"
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maks
09-10-2012, 01:15 AM
i just want to remind you marks that marco currently is on your side in this argument

and barry is on yours

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:17 AM
i would take barry 100x over marco are you nuts

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:17 AM
I'd call her a cunt and spit in her face, and if obama has done that I'd be voting for him.

good for you im sure you would do just that

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 01:17 AM
i just want to remind you marks that marco currently is on your side in this argument

this is a debate not a popularity contest, nobody should be on anybody's side; you must refute another's arguments through logic, not popular vote

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:18 AM
anyway its not a big deal since i live in america but i dont really see why people who want a queen shouldnt be allowed to have one

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:19 AM
this is a debate not a popularity contest, nobody should be on anybody's side; you must refute another's arguments through logic, not popular vote

plug drugs this is a fucking nigger dick forum lmao

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:20 AM
aenyway that was rly gay, the moorish monarchy will sruvive for a thousand yrs

maks
09-10-2012, 01:21 AM
so would I tbh but thomas paine and denis diderot and thomas jefferson are also on my side so I can live with that

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 01:21 AM
plug drugs this is a fucking nigger dick forum lmao

i'm all for niggerdicks as much as the next guy, dont get me wrong, but there are clearly repressed intellectuals hidden inside every niggerdick poster begging to get out

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 01:21 AM
i would take barry 100x over marco are you nuts

That's because you're an ignorant god forsaken cunt slave.

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maks
09-10-2012, 01:22 AM
good for you im sure you would do just that

I might kick her too

maks
09-10-2012, 01:23 AM
i'm all for niggerdicks as much as the next guy, dont get me wrong, but there are clearly repressed intellectuals hidden inside every niggerdick poster begging to get out

I just wanted to see how long I could keep doli going tbh

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:24 AM
i was copying and pasteing from Edmund Burkes "Cole Strykers Epic Win for Anonymous"

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 01:24 AM
Look up the "Virginia Company"

maks keep up the good fight. you're on the right side. I would even call you a patriot.

Gentleman Doli
09-10-2012, 01:26 AM
ok good job marco now next obnoxious bitch come in here and tell marks that hes right

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 01:30 AM
marks is right you ignorant traitorous fuck.

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 01:30 AM
the chinese won't ever invade a western power, not for a hundred years, due to the inherent structure of their economy. As soon as they invaded they'd go broke as a country within 6 months and have to go back home - the US on the other hand would have to turn all of its industry back to american soil and the US economy would boom from closing trade with Asia.

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 01:35 AM
we'd lose our happy meal toys, sure, but the majority of products that matter would have to be made on american soil again and open up numerous moderate-paying assembly line jobs; this income would be taxed and the US could blow even more of its money on a military budget, ensuring an imminent chinese defeat. Not to mention 100 million pissed off able-bodied males would be more than happy to fight on american soil and kick some chinese ass.

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 01:36 AM
I suppose I'll be getting all these nasty neg reps from the faggot gallary.

leave your names when you do. Cowards.

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maks
09-10-2012, 01:36 AM
marks is right you ignorant traitorous fuck.

I usually am

Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net
09-10-2012, 01:36 AM
I suppose I'll be getting all these nasty neg reps from the faggot gallary.

leave your names when you do. Cowards.

http://i.imgur.com/wGiW8.gif (http://imgur.com/wGiW8)

maks
09-10-2012, 01:38 AM
we'd lose our happy meal toys, sure, but the majority of products that matter would have to be made on american soil again and open up numerous moderate-paying assembly line jobs; this income would be taxed and the US could blow even more of its money on a military budget, ensuring an imminent chinese defeat. Not to mention 100 million pissed off able-bodied males would be more than happy to fight on american soil and kick some chinese ass.

there's a whole shitload of chinese, if we went to full scale war with them there wouldn't be anyone to work those jobs

they'll invade us when their policy of only wanting sons catches up with them and they have a million of 18-22 year old who can't find anyone to fuck

maks
09-10-2012, 01:38 AM
you sure do like that gif marco

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 01:43 AM
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maks what are you doing to marco?

shut the fuck up or I'll unignore you

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 01:44 AM
there's a whole shitload of chinese, if we went to full scale war with them there wouldn't be anyone to work those jobs

they'll invade us when their policy of only wanting sons catches up with them and they have a million of 18-22 year old who can't find anyone to fuck
an invasion of our west coast would be impractical. Even if they managed to boat up 100 million chinese soldiers (a ridiculous number that history has shown to be impossible to muster, especially for a marine landing), they would get torn to shreds before they even got within 500 miles of landing on the west coast.
Occupying American soil just isn't in the cards for them. They could skirmish with our west coast, but we still have a more advanced Navy and would kick their ass

Now if we were talking about invading China, that'd be a different story - and their enormous manpower would be much more significant. It'd also be a never-ending war. Asia's massive population has proved to be a problem when it comes to land wars, especially when Asia is at war with other Asian nations.

maks
09-10-2012, 01:45 AM
when you do make sure you tell me your rape story

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 01:48 AM
It only takes one missile from a one-man jet to sink a ship with 5,000 soldiers on it

maks
09-10-2012, 01:48 AM
an invasion of our west coast would be impractical. Even if they managed to boat up 100 million chinese soldiers (a number that history has shown to be impossible to muster, especially for a marine landing), they would get torn to shreds before they even got within 500 miles of landing on the west coast.
Occupying American soil just isn't in the cards for them. They could skirmish with our west coast, but we still have a more advanced Navy and would kick their ass

Now if we were talking about invading China, that'd be a different story - and their enormous manpower would be much more significant. It'd also be a never-ending war. Asia's massive population has proved to be a problem when it comes to land wars, especially when Asia is at war with other Asian nations.

I'm thinking ww2 pacific theater all over again. they do something stupid, take one of our allies and/or territories, we chase them across the ocean for a few years and then take on the homeland. since nukes are politically incorrect these days there's inevitably going to be a ground invasion.

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 01:51 AM
if we had to we'd use nuclear weapons over open water just to sink their onslaught

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 01:55 AM
if we had to we'd use nuclear weapons over open water just to sink their onslaughtsometimes you are so stupid that we'd use them on your head

Camoron
09-10-2012, 01:56 AM
lol anyone who thinks the US will ever be invaded (successfully anyways)

88 guns for every 100 people, need i say more?

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 01:58 AM
sometimes you are so stupid that we'd use them on your head

if ww3 were a playstation game and i was america and i saw the chinese in boats coming to my west coast, and my navy wasn't ready yet to stop them, i'd just nuke their shit over open water. 0 civilian deaths

Camoron
09-10-2012, 02:00 AM
nuclear weapons are the reason I dont think we will ever have another major war like WW2 again (in relatively near future). or if we do, "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but world War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 02:00 AM
could light off a few hydrogen bombs 30 miles away from their fleet and still take them out

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 02:01 AM
nuclear weapons are the reason I dont think we will ever have another major war like WW2 again (in relatively near future). or if we do, "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but world War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"

yeah yeah yeah i dont think Einstein ever even actually said that; Einstein is the most misquoted man in history. He never even said like 3/4ths of the quotes attributed to him

Camoron
09-10-2012, 02:03 AM
he actually did say that in an interview in 1949

Camoron
09-10-2012, 02:04 AM
but it's likely he was repeating something he had heard someone else say as apparently it dates back at least a year before he said it

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 02:07 AM
lol anyone who thinks the US will ever be invaded (successfully anyways)

88 guns for every 100 people, need i say more?you invade yourselves.

Obama is about the only thing that saved your asses from getting fucked royally

Camoron
09-10-2012, 02:08 AM
you invade yourselves.

Obama is about the only thing that saved your asses from getting fucked royally

that does not make sense.

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 02:08 AM
nuclear weapons are the reason I dont think we will ever have another major war like WW2 again (in relatively near future). or if we do, "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but world War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"yes

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 02:11 AM
if ww3 were a playstation game and i was america and i saw the chinese in boats coming to my west coast, and my navy wasn't ready yet to stop them, i'd just nuke their shit over open water. 0 civilian deathsif the nuke missile had a stupid detector it would be dropped on your head... like you must have been at birth

Camoron
09-10-2012, 02:11 AM
:words:

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 02:12 AM
America is riddled with the pride of male stupidity and female weakness. White men in America vote based on what they'd rather personally identify with rather than who serves their interests better and their women go along so their men don't get angry at them.probably

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 02:21 AM
American "talk radio" gurus appeal to white male pride rather than reason.some of them deliberately try to make people stupid so they have something to talk about

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 02:27 AM
America is riddled with the pride of male stupidity and female weakness. White men in America vote based on what they'd rather personally identify with rather than who serves their interests better and their women go along so their men don't get angry at them.

America is a matriarchy where females are only attracted to cocky testosterone-filled males and only have sex with them -- this drives normally non-aggressive males to be competitive and hold a political, philosophical, and moral outlook that they don't want to have, lest they want to have a life without sex with women

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 02:28 AM
Sexual selection is the dominating force when comes to determining the human psyche, more especially in developed countries where food/water/shelter isn't a problem. In America, females hold all the keys when it comes to sexual selection.

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 02:30 AM
America is a matriarchy where females are only attracted to cocky testosterone-filled males and only have sex with them -- this drives normally non-aggressive males to be competitive and hold a political, philosophical, and moral outlook that they don't want to have, lest they want to have a life without sex with womenbollocks

males have always been owned like that

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 02:31 AM
Sexual selection is the dominating force when comes to determining the human psyche, more especially in developed countries where food/water/shelter isn't a problem. In America, females hold all the keys when it comes to sexual selection.yeah in the olden days blah blah blah before we had to use a brain blah blah blah women got pregnant all the time and died

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 02:33 AM
There is a creature hidden within the shadow of the collective unconscious of all of us, and this creature has us all pull together as a team to fulfill its motive: refining the human species into a more evolved stronger, superior species

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 02:37 AM
sports are gay

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 02:39 AM
Yup! If you read the comments to any sports article discussing a trade, the fans will post who "we" should trade or trade for like they have any influence over their team's front office decisions. This grandiose arrogance and pride cracks me the fuck up every time.well it's the "us" vs "them" mentality that causes conflict... you don't go into a war to invade "us" you go in to invade "them" and where do you define that line between "us" and "them" and what are the differences on each side of this conceptual line you draw... my grandparents as national thinkers have a much more "us" vs "them" mentality.

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 02:46 AM
all i know is my mom smoked pot and dropped acid and i was born when she was 18, and she raised me to always be nice to everyone and never be scared to ask anyone else for help because everyone in this world should love and help each other

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 02:47 AM
well it's the "us" vs "them" mentality that causes conflict... you don't go into a war to invade "us" you go in to invade "them" and where do you define that line between "us" and "them" and what are the differences on each side of this conceptual line you draw... my grandparents as national thinkers have a much more "us" vs "them" mentality.

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NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 02:52 AM
"Us versus them" is precisely the ethos that Christian Right bases its culture war on. Problem is: women and sexual minorities are just as likely to be part of their families as anyone else's.sports are gay

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 02:55 AM
all i know is my mom smoked pot and dropped acid and i was born when she was 18, and she raised me to always be nice to everyone and never be scared to ask anyone else for help because everyone in this world should love and help each otheryou are pretty nice

when you are using your brain, it is a surprise that that old thing still works ;)

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 02:56 AM
you are pretty nice

when you are using your brain, it is a surprise that that old thing still works ;)

some times i forget how to go back to the working parts of my brain, and when i get there i have to clear the dust out

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 02:59 AM
Have the drugs left you any working parts of your brain?
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NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 03:06 AM
some times i forget how to go back to the working parts of my brain, and when i get there i have to clear the dust outlol

it's ok, you're only stupid when you're wrong... which is often enough though

unlike me of course who is never wrong

timmy
09-10-2012, 03:11 AM
of course australia hopes the western countries band together, you don't have nukes. if china invades australia, china is turned to ash. if china invades the US what the hell is australia going to do?

a trade embargo?

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 03:14 AM
lol

it's ok, you're only stupid when you're wrong... which is often enough though

unlike me of course who is never wrong
i'm not humble enough to follow you down that path with you,
its strange, I'm never wrong either. Language just forms a barrier and sometimes its difficult to communicate my rightness to others

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 03:14 AM
a trade embargo?

:rofl:

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 03:26 AM
a trade embargo?LOL

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 03:46 AM
i dont think anyone understands how mutually reliant china and the US are upon each other

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 03:54 AM
I don't think you understand how egos and ambition makes that a moot issue.

do i need to quote Austin Powers again? "You like an idiot wanted to take over the world, but there is no world anymore, there is only corporations"

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 04:25 AM
Why not? It forced Ecuador to hand Julian Assange over the the United states via England and Sweden so China is definitely too afraid of that and wants no part of it.
I was laughing because it's true

it's exactly what we would and should do if the hypothetical situation he was saying it about was to happen

and it's got nothing to do with Julian Assache

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 04:30 AM
i dont think anyone understands how mutually reliant china and the US are upon each otherthe US is now in a position where it relies on a lot of places fiancially

China would live quite well without America, America would fuck itself if it tried that on china

Camoron
09-10-2012, 04:30 AM
i dont think U understand how this threead is fucking retarded and you are all retards.

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 04:31 AM
I was laughing because it's true

it's exactly what we would and should do if the hypothetical situation he was saying it about was to happen

I was laughing because it's ridiculous, and tim was being serious.
if one of your major allies gets invaded, would you help them or just trade embargo their invader? Our way of life would be at risk. Have you seen some of the shit the chinese do? They shit in diapers on trains, and eat scorpions and millipedes as a regular snack. Would you like a country with that kind of lifestyle to be taking over your country and converting it?

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 04:32 AM
i dont think anyone understands how mutually reliant china and the US are upon each otherthe US is now in a position where it relies on a lot of places fiancially

China would live quite well without America, America would fuck itself if it tried that on china the US owes way too much money

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 04:38 AM
the US is now in a position where it relies on a lot of places fiancially

China would live quite well without America, America would fuck itself if it tried that on china

China has too many people and practically begs other countries for jobs because there aren't enough jobs in their country by itself to go around. It's all due to their cultural morals and traditions that go back to the middle ages which are completely out of whack -- they try to have as many kids as possible because its been ingrained in their family morals that kids are going to be needed to go off and fight wars, and the country needs as many kids as possible (before not even a century ago, China had been in perpetual civil war for thousands of years). They value individualism so little that it has a negative impact on the population as a whole.

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 04:39 AM
I was laughing because it's ridiculous, and tim was being serious.
if one of your major allies gets invaded, would you help them or just trade embargo their invader? Our way of life would be at risk. Have you seen some of the shit the chinese do? They shit in diapers on trains, and eat scorpions and millipedes as a regular snack. Would you like a country with that kind of lifestyle to be taking over your country and converting it?If I was China and you were Australia I'd invade you just to make you shut up because you're stupid

Camoron
09-10-2012, 04:41 AM
the US is now in a position where it relies on a lot of places fiancially

China would live quite well without America, America would fuck itself if it tried that on china

you are really dumb

america (europe, australia, etc.) without china is a land without cheap bullshit

china without america is a land without the means to feed and power itself

look at a list of the exports/imports, all we import from china is cheap crap e.g. furniture, footwear, apparel, toys, electronics; they import from the US oils, seeds, power generation equipment, vehicles, aircraft, chemicals, plastics, paper, etc. basically all of the necessary tools to build infrastructure and feed people.

which list do you think is more vital to a nation

the US before trading with China was a global superpower
China before trading with the US was a crippled husk that had been exploited by Europe, Japan, etc. for decades

I am sorry but this should be obvious. u can be a hater all you want, China is in no position to be self reliant if they stopped trading with the US tomorrow. The US economy would get fucked up from such a sudden occurrence and there would be an economic crisis but it would work itself out and the markets would stabilize and we'd start making out own consumer goods once again like we used to and consumer goods would become expensive but the quality would probably increase and hopefully the ideal of the disposable economy would die off since things would be too expensive to continue that way. China would lose its biggest export partner by far (their exports ot the US are much higher than US exports to China) and the economic situation there would be far worse and longer lasting.

Camoron
09-10-2012, 04:45 AM
btw australia has a higher external national debt as % of GDP than the US

just sayin ;)

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 04:48 AM
you are really dumb

america (europe, australia, etc.) without china is a land without cheap bullshit

china without america is a land without the means to feed and power itself

look at a list of the exports/imports, all we import from china is cheap crap e.g. furniture, footwear, apparel, toys, electronics; they import from the US oils, seeds, power generation equipment, vehicles, aircraft, chemicals, plastics, paper, etc. basically all of the necessary tools to build infrastructure and feed people.

which list do you think is more vital to a nation

the US before trading with China was a global superpower
China before trading with the US was a crippled husk that had been exploited by Europe, Japan, etc. for decades

I am sorry but this should be obvious. u can be a hater all you want, China is in no position to be self reliant if they stopped trading with the US tomorrow. The US economy would get fucked up from such a sudden occurrence and there would be an economic crisis but it would work itself out and the markets would stabilize and we'd start making out own consumer goods once again like we used to and consumer goods would become expensive but the quality would probably increase and hopefully the ideal of the disposable economy would die off since things would be too expensive to continue that way. China would lose its biggest export partner by far (their exports ot the US are much higher than US exports to China) and the economic situation there would be far worse and longer lasting.

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 04:48 AM
um no

america owes way too much fucking money

other nations do not owe that much

you would fuck yourselves

Camoron
09-10-2012, 04:52 AM
brilliant argument and well backed by facts

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 04:53 AM
it's still the truth and you know it

your foolish national pride is lying out of its ass to you

Camoron
09-10-2012, 04:54 AM
perhaps u do not understand, YES the US has the highest debt in terms of DOLLARS in teh world, but it also has the highest GDP

in terms of GDP that external debt is roughly 100% of the GDP

according to a CNBC article from earlier this year referencing worldbank statistics, 19 other nations had higher external debt as % of GDP, 18 of them in Europe and also Australia which was like 120% or something. UK was 2nd with 450% and Ireland was 1st with over 1200%

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 04:56 AM
you don't understand that more money is available for "us" to borrow than for "you"

Camoron
09-10-2012, 04:57 AM
WOW the thing about debt is, if we stopped trading with China obviously theres something BIG AND BAD going on in the world right? obviously we would cancel our debt to them you fucking idiot. yes this would cause a financial crisis and rampant inflation but it is doable in the case of such an EXTREME situation (as this would obviously be). see: Russian financial crisis of 1998 in which Russia defaulted on its debt and has since pretty much recovered economically

Camoron
09-10-2012, 04:59 AM
you don't understand that more money is available for "us" to borrow than for "you"

I don't understand that because it makes no fucking sense

why would nations be more willing to lend to Australia when Australia is already in a deeper debt hole than the US is? that makes no fucking sense

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 04:59 AM
i'm glad we have people like Camoron who post here who know what they're talking about

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 04:59 AM
WOW the thing about debt is, if we stopped trading with China obviously theres something BIG AND BAD going on in the world right? obviously we would cancel our debt to them you fucking idiot. yes this would cause a financial crisis and rampant inflation but it is doable in the case of such an EXTREME situation (as this would obviously be). see: Russian financial crisis of 1998 in which Russia defaulted on its debt and has since pretty much recovered economicallythat would be in the situation where China declares war on you

if that's a comfort to you

I'm not sure Australia and all your "allies" would want to jump in with you on that one

so moot hypothetical point

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:03 AM
If we quit trding with china someone would have to make all the shit we get from them, which would create jobs, true those items would cost more but there would be more american dollars staying in america and more tax revenue would be generated lowering our debt. Is that theory sound?Yes but the rest of the world would still be trading with each other

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:06 AM
shhh lizard, i'm talking to the guy who knows more than i do about economics, not hipster tom petty.everyone knows more about everything than you

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:08 AM
that would be in the situation where China declares war on you

if that's a comfort to you

I'm not sure Australia and all your "allies" would want to jump in with you on that one

so moot hypothetical point
i would relish a war with an actual country

hey nortynippy how many American military bases are there on the Asian side of the Pacific? And how many Chinese bases are there on the American side of the Pacific? :smug:

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 05:09 AM
If we quit trding with china someone would have to make all the shit we get from them, which would create jobs, true those items would cost more but there would be more american dollars staying in america and more tax revenue would be generated lowering our debt. Is that theory sound?

yes

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:09 AM
Yes but the rest of the world would still be trading with each other

oh please, do you really think if ther'es some kind of WAR between China and the US that everyone else would be neutral? get real

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:11 AM
what would happen:
The US sends 500000 soldiers
UK sends 10000
Canada sends 1000
Australia sends 200
everyone else "the coalition of the willing" sends 1

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:12 AM
i would relish a war with an actual country

hey nortynippy how many American military bases are there on the Asian side of the Pacific? And how many Chinese bases are there on the American side of the Pacific? :smug:I think you have no true idea

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:12 AM
What did I tell you about the we thing Lisa?

that it's a term WE use to identify OURSELVES when we are talking about STUFF as it relates to a group with which WE identify OURSELVES

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:13 AM
obviously not you, so your argument is invalid, because you're flat out dumb as a sack of hammers.
I'm smarter than you.

How much did you bash your ex and why?

Why were you ever in the KKK?

Are any of those things true about your retard down syndrome ass?

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:14 AM
I think you have no true idea

are we going conspiracy nut now? I google "Chinese military bases in the Americas" and find links to godlikeproductions and truther sites about how China was responsible for 9/11

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:14 AM
Like you and the rest of the American members of this site have any influence over US policy.

What did I tell you about the we thing Lisa?I can't remember

tell me again

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:15 AM
Cameron think he can declare WW3 and he has it all figured out

what a fucking retard

as if anyone with political power would listen to that rubbish

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:15 AM
goddan chinese muslim terrorsits

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:16 AM
are we going conspiracy nut now? I google "Chinese military bases in the Americas" and find links to godlikeproductions and truther sites about how China was responsible for 9/11you think you actually have an actual real clue?

You get more stupid by the minute

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:16 AM
Cameron think he can declare WW3 and he has it all figured out

what a fucking retard

as if anyone with political power would listen to that rubbish

yup thats exactly what I said, I want to declare war on China MWAHAHHAHAA YOU DONT MESS WITH DER FLAMERICALERHCAT

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:17 AM
yup thats exactly what I said, I want to declare war on China MWAHAHHAHAA YOU DONT MESS WITH DER FLAMERICALERHCAT
doofus

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:17 AM
you think you actually have an actual real clue?

You get more stupid by the minute
i dont know you tell me
do you believe chinese did 9/11
do you believe they have secret udnerground bases they tunneled through the Earth from China just under our feet

i dont

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 05:18 AM
Like you and the rest of the American members of this site have any influence over US policy.

What did I tell you about the we thing Lisa?

semantics, do you really think he was implying joint ownership of the united states or something? He was using 'we' for the sake of simplicity in the flow of wording

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:19 AM
i dont know you tell me
do you believe chinese did 9/11
do you believe they have secret udnerground bases they tunneled through the Earth from China just under our feet

i dont
um no I don't think any of that

are you retarded?

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:19 AM
semantics, do you really think he was implying joint ownership of the united states or something? He was using 'we' for the sake of simplicity in the flow of wordingand what you just said was meaningless and has no bearing on anything

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:21 AM
can't use a quote properlyok about your x

fair enough explanation

But joining the KKK?... you fucking retard.

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:23 AM
what "copy and paste" is the ignorant tard talking about?

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:23 AM
Nippy posts things that make no sense and reeks of aspergers, OB is just a pseudo intellectual tryhard fag

Plug Drugs
09-10-2012, 05:23 AM
and what you just said was meaningless and has no bearing on anything

just like what OB said?

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:23 AM
[QUOTE=Camoron;61224]and you are a doofus

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:24 AM
I didn't do that

shit head

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:24 AM
[QUOTE=Camoron;61224]and you are a doofus

in before edit

NortyNippy
09-10-2012, 05:24 AM
just like what OB said?
she makes a better point than you about it

Camoron
09-10-2012, 05:24 AM
fuck did i just idiot myself