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Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 03:54 PM
may cause dizziness

may impair ability to drive or operate machinery

always stevey
06-10-2013, 03:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2I0MJZpAYg
this gay song reminds me of you

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 03:58 PM
:lipstick:

always stevey
06-10-2013, 03:59 PM
"do not crush" you're taking 80 mg oxy codone you idiot.
you're going to die drenched in your own piss and vomit

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:00 PM
the dumbass in that song said the same drug twice

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:03 PM
i heard that song like years and years ago when teenage wiggers were playing it everywhere, and the first few times i tried lecturing them "oxycotton" isnt a fucking thing its oxycontin which is a brand of extended release oxycodone, and percocets are a brand of oxycodone with paracetamol
but you know, trying to educate a bunch of white suburban kids idolizing fake hip hop fuckin whatever isnt going to work anyways

always stevey
06-10-2013, 04:04 PM
I bet you liked that song. Cody sent it to me in a pm lavishing it with praise. Said it was the hardest song he's ever heard and how he feels so cool when he listens to it

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 04:04 PM
may cause dizziness

may impair ability to drive or operate machinery

may impair ability to experience a joyful reality

always stevey
06-10-2013, 04:05 PM
may impair ability to experience a joyful reality

:rofl:

rubycalaber
06-10-2013, 04:06 PM
may impair ability to make good threads

rootbeer
06-10-2013, 04:09 PM
may impair ability to experience a joyful reality

i dont think it ever did that

rootbeer
06-10-2013, 04:09 PM
may impair ability to make good threads

this on the other hand....

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:10 PM
"do not crush" you're taking 80 mg oxy codone you idiot.
you're going to die drenched in your own piss and vomit
80mg is fucking childs play :rofl: i was up to like 210 doses multiple times a day til and would get to the point where i was falling asleep standing up

The problem with oxycodone is that its largely a prodrug and metabolizes into different opioids in vivo, all of which have different half-lives.. So while the shorter half-life metabolites wear off, the long half-life ones are building up in your system with each subsequent dose.. so its really easy to end up taking more and more doses until you end up getting to the point where not even slapping yourself to stay awake works, then you have to worry about puking in your sleep, pulmonary edema, all sorts of goodies. You can get to the point where half a beer or taking half a dose of an allergy medication will kill you

when a hit brings you an inch away from death, thats livin man

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:12 PM
also cag they changed the 80mg OxyContins so that crushing them releases an opiate antagonist, blocking the entire drug from working at all. So they're largely considered garbage now by the recreational drug community.

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:12 PM
thats old news

always stevey
06-10-2013, 04:13 PM
the drug community is largely considered garbage by society.

always stevey
06-10-2013, 04:21 PM
burn

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 04:23 PM
80mg is fucking childs play :rofl: i was up to like 210 doses multiple times a day til and would get to the point where i was falling asleep standing up

The problem with oxycodone is that its largely a prodrug and metabolizes into different opioids in vivo, all of which have different half-lives.. So while the shorter half-life metabolites wear off, the long half-life ones are building up in your system with each subsequent dose.. so its really easy to end up taking more and more doses until you end up getting to the point where not even slapping yourself to stay awake works, then you have to worry about puking in your sleep, pulmonary edema, all sorts of goodies. You can get to the point where half a beer or taking half a dose of an allergy medication will kill you

when a hit brings you an inch away from death, thats livin man

oxycodone undergoes hepatic metab primarily into oxymorphone, both drugs are pharmacologically active

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 04:29 PM
when a hit brings you an inch away from death, thats livin man

i've been there about 100 times on cwe opium taken with whisky, phenergan, benzos, barbs, soma & other cns deppressants all at once
i also used to think that was the way to live, but it's just a way to temporarily escape living a shit life which also prevents you from turning a shit life into a happy one. the sooner you are able to figure that out on your own, the better... but it probably won't happen until the dope stops working. fortunately for you, it's guaranteed to eventually stop working.

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:30 PM
the drug community is largely considered garbage by society.
trying to dig up some statistics about how many people in this country are prescribed vicodin, valium, etc..

Ooh here's a tasty one, in 2010, 131.2 million prescriptions were written for Hydrocodone (vicodin, lortabs, etc)
just how many of those were people who had their wisdom teeth taken out or actually had a broken bone, lol. A large, large, chunk of them are people bitching about back pain or arthiritis or people exaggerating symptoms, because they're recreational drug seekers too, just ones deemed acceptable by society

keep in mind there's only 300 million people in this country

want me to dig up the ones on benzodiazepines?

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:34 PM
"i cant sleep, i have a lot of anxiety"
Doctor: "have some valium/xanax/klonopin"

Minority: "i cant sleep, i have a lot of anxiety"
Doctor: "get the hell out of my office"
Drug Dealer: "i got whatcha neeed"
Police officer: "get in jail faggot"

its all a scheme to beat down minorities and undesirables into poverty and a legal war they cant win, so we can assert our position as the Great White Cock, the phallus which shall rule supreme over all others

Dustin
06-10-2013, 04:35 PM
shut up plug drugs

macpro
06-10-2013, 04:37 PM
maybe he'll walk out in front of a garbage truck.

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:45 PM
for 2009:
44 million prescriptions to xanax
25.9 million prescriptions to ativan
14 million prescriptions to valium

not sure whether those numbers even include prescriptions to their generic counter-parts or other brands which prescribe the same drug. The names of each drug is alprazolam, lorazepam, and diazepam for xanax, ativan, and valium respectively

m0nde
06-10-2013, 04:47 PM
how many mexicans are involved in the illegal full chaykin body trade?

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:50 PM
there are more prescriptions to psychiatric drugs each year in the US than there are people in the US; we've all been taught to believe that were special and unique and individual and when that turns out not to be true, a drug company is right there ready to offer us their service, "Feeling depressed and lonely like nobody gives a shit about you? Get on drugs"

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:53 PM
Drugs are illegal so they make more money

m0nde
06-10-2013, 04:53 PM
why aren't you on welfare/disability along with steveyos?

m0nde
06-10-2013, 04:53 PM
you could get free meds and money

m0nde
06-10-2013, 04:54 PM
i mean, you're obviously fucked in the head

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 04:57 PM
oxycodone undergoes hepatic metab primarily into oxymorphone, both drugs are pharmacologically active

theres a shitload dude
just going to copy paste wikipedia, i dont even pretend to memorize these

Oxycodone is metabolized to α and β oxycodol; oxymorphone, then α and β oxymorphol and noroxymorphone; and noroxycodone, then α and β noroxycodol and noroxymorphone (N-desmethyloxycodone).[3] (14-Hydroxydihydrocodeine that in turn becomes 14-Hydroxydihydromorphine) These metabolites are true only for humans.[23] As many as six metabolites for oxycodone (14-hydroxydihydromorphinone, 14-hydroxydihydrocodeine, 14-hydroxydihydrocodeinone N-oxide {oxycodone N-oxide}, 14-hydroxydihydroisocodeine, 14-hydroxydihydrocodeine N-oxide, and noroxycodone) have been found in rabbits,[24] several of which are thought to be active metabolites to some extent, although a study using conventional oral oxycodone concluded oxycodone itself, and not its metabolites, is predominantly responsible for the drug's opioid effects on the brain.[3]

Camoron
06-10-2013, 04:58 PM
theres a shitload dude
just going to copy paste wikipedia, i dont even pretend to memorize these

kiss me passionatly. i'm drunk

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 05:04 PM
if you want my two cents i'd say the oxycodone molecule itself is only responsible for 30-40% of pharmacological effects, and that's cut in half after the first 3 hours (oc's half life is like 3-4 hours). For me, I'm still peaking at the 3 hour mark, which, just to me, suggests that the metabolites, and not oxycodone itself, are primarily responsible for its effects.
As always, everyone is different, especially when it comes to drugs with active metabolites, as people's hepatic activity varies drastically between individuals

m0nde
06-10-2013, 05:08 PM
i don't understand why you're not on the dole, bro

Camoron
06-10-2013, 05:10 PM
i'm a huge fag, monde.

m0nde
06-10-2013, 05:12 PM
i'm serious about this he would do so well. he obviously needs it much more than steveyos.

rootbeer
06-10-2013, 05:13 PM
get on my dole

m0nde
06-10-2013, 05:20 PM
this has nothing to do with rep, rootbeer

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 05:20 PM
i had debillitating growing pains when i was 13-14, like the "you dont know pain until youve experienced something like that" kind, know what they gave me? fucking tylenol 3s w/ codeine.. When i broke my femur, largest bone in the human body, they gave me one 30 count bottle of 5mg lortabs, fuckin shit they give out for tootheaches. How do i get the good shit? Do i have to be a hot blonde with big boobs or upper middle class before doctors start sucking my proverbial cock with strong mu-opioid agonists?? Am i going to be laying on my death bed with my organs laying out all over the place, and the docs saying "uhhh here, have some aspirin"?

And then last summer, the night before my grandfather died and he was choking to death on his own saliva due to a giant hole cancer ate away in his esophagus, having to ARGUE with the night nurse to give him morphine or fucking ANYTHING, I have a justifiable VENDETTA against the god damn medical system; i won't be satisfied until there's doctors out on the fucking streets holding up cardboard signs saying "Will Diagnosis You With RLS For Food"

m0nde
06-10-2013, 05:21 PM
i had debillitating growing pains when i was 13-14, like the "you dont know pain until youve experienced something like that" kind, know what they gave me? fucking tylenol 3s w/ codeine.. When i broke my femur, largest bone in the human body, they gave me one 30 count bottle of 5mg lortabs, fuckin shit they give out for tootheaches. How do i get the good shit? Do i have to be a hot blonde with big boobs or upper middle class before doctors start sucking my proverbial cock with strong mu-agonists?? Am i going to be laying on my death bed with my organs laying out all over the place, and the docs saying "uhhh here, have some aspirin"?

And then last summer, the night before my grandfather died and he was choking to death on his own saliva due to a giant hole cancer ate away in his esophagus, having to ARGUE with the night nurse to give him morphine or fucking ANYTHING, I have a justifiable VENDETTA against the god damn medical system; i won't be satisfied until there's doctors out on the fucking streets holding up cardboard signs saying "Will Diagnosis You With RLS For Food"ya, you need welfare, bro
go steal some of steffies' medical marijuana

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 05:44 PM
80mg is fucking childs play :rofl: i was up to like 210 doses multiple times a day til and would get to the point where i was falling asleep standing up

The problem with oxycodone is that its largely a prodrug and metabolizes into different opioids in vivo, all of which have different half-lives.. So while the shorter half-life metabolites wear off, the long half-life ones are building up in your system with each subsequent dose.. so its really easy to end up taking more and more doses until you end up getting to the point where not even slapping yourself to stay awake works, then you have to worry about puking in your sleep, pulmonary edema, all sorts of goodies. You can get to the point where half a beer or taking half a dose of an allergy medication will kill you

when a hit brings you an inch away from death, thats livin man

youre going to die, i hope you have naloxone

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 05:46 PM
210 doses jesus fucking christ lmfao

m0nde
06-10-2013, 05:48 PM
how is it this guy isn't on welfare?
guy, go to fjs RIGHT NOW!

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 05:49 PM
i had debillitating growing pains when i was 13-14, like the "you dont know pain until youve experienced something like that" kind, know what they gave me? fucking tylenol 3s w/ codeine.. When i broke my femur, largest bone in the human body, they gave me one 30 count bottle of 5mg lortabs, fuckin shit they give out for tootheaches. How do i get the good shit? Do i have to be a hot blonde with big boobs or upper middle class before doctors start sucking my proverbial cock with strong mu-opioid agonists?? Am i going to be laying on my death bed with my organs laying out all over the place, and the docs saying "uhhh here, have some aspirin"?

And then last summer, the night before my grandfather died and he was choking to death on his own saliva due to a giant hole cancer ate away in his esophagus, having to ARGUE with the night nurse to give him morphine or fucking ANYTHING, I have a justifiable VENDETTA against the god damn medical system; i won't be satisfied until there's doctors out on the fucking streets holding up cardboard signs saying "Will Diagnosis You With RLS For Food"

no you dont, youre the reason the medical system is hesitant to hand out morphine to people who ask for it you stupid fuck. pain management specialists all over the world have to deal with your fecal matter oozing down and staining their otherwise very important profession

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 05:50 PM
a dose of 210 or 210 doses? no one knows for sure, not even me

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 05:58 PM
no you dont, youre the reason the medical system is hesitant to hand out morphine to people who ask for it you stupid fuck. pain management specialists all over the world have to deal with your fecal matter oozing down and staining their otherwise very important profession
ive never asked for painkillers, the only time i went to the doctor for PAIN was when i was 13 and had growing pains in my back. the only other time in my life a doctor has prescribed me painkillers was when i was 16 and broke my femur and i got the one bottle of thirty 5mg/500mg hydroco/apap pills (a single fucking bottle mind you, try stretching that fucker out over the 2 months you're bed-ridden with a broken femur)

ive gone to the doctor before seeking benzos, but thats because i was getting panic attacks like multiple times a day non stop for a few years, and i didnt want to have to be on a daily ssri or tca every fucking day so, yes, i tried fishing for a fuckin PRN script of a benzo when i was a teenager, because doctors are so fucking paranoid to hand them out, that someone who actually needs one has to fake illness just to get it

m0nde
06-10-2013, 06:00 PM
go to a psychiatrist seeking a diagnosis and then get on welfare so you don't have to work at walmart with doli

Camoron
06-10-2013, 06:03 PM
fagg

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 06:03 PM
PRN scripts to benzos dont turn people into physical addicts btw, its when the pharmaceutical company tells docs "ooop, dont want to do that, because then they might take it more than prescribed or misuse it! they should be on it DAILY MWAHAHAHAHA" that forces anxiety-related illness patients to become addicts, because they've got a drug that is well known for causing physical dependence in their system 24/7 because the doctor was too scared just to give 10 of the little fuckin things to them once a month that they could take as needed.
The Pharmaceutical Industry Wants Addicts doli, and you're one of their mindless footsoldiers oblivious to whats going on higher up

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 06:08 PM
gerh5r4j4skkj

rootbeer
06-10-2013, 06:09 PM
plug drugs only posts when he is high out of his mind i think

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 06:11 PM
its all a scheme to beat down minorities and undesirables into poverty and a legal war they cant win, so we can assert our position as the Great White Cock, the phallus which shall rule supreme over all others


because they're recreational drug seekers too, just ones deemed acceptable by society


you should tell that to the dozen or so soccer-moms-turned-gutter-whores in my NA group who switched to heroin when their doctors finally cut them off and they get off the city bus with nothing except their black babbys fathered by those poor beaten down smack peddling minorities

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 06:16 PM
you should tell that to the dozen or so soccer-moms-turned-gutter-whores in my NA group who switched to heroin when their doctors finally cut them off and they get off the city bus with nothing except their black babbys fathered by those poor beaten down smack peddling minorities

i'm sure it was all the drugs' fault

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 06:18 PM
behind every soccer mom is a stash of benzos, alcohol, or painkillers -- anything to help them cope with the fact that their life is a giant charade of pompous pious pissy bullshittery; that they're a fraud and they know it

rootbeer
06-10-2013, 06:20 PM
plug drugs get a grip man

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 06:21 PM
theres a whole subsection of books at every department store dedicated to this generation of adult women who secretly hate everyone and everything. Trashy romance, self help books, chicken soup for the used-up, benzoed-out "married to a fat snub-dicked dick-head's" soul

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 06:23 PM
there's no way around it -- many good medicines have side effects, one of those being obsessive compulsions to misuse the medicine in certain types of patients.

the AMA has many times gotten bad medicine taken off the market, no matter how hard the pushers lobby for it. remember palladone? what about rx heroin?

addicts are addicts before they ever pick up the first drug. it's when that happens that the addiction actively manifests itself, and active addiction is the only way to differentiate between the two. like most side effects, it affects a mniority of patients. in the meantime, millions of non-addicts are able to function without debilitating pain.

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 06:23 PM
i look forward to gardening and baking cookies, therefore i am holier than thou

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 06:26 PM
behind every soccer mom is a stash of benzos, alcohol, or painkillers -- anything to help them cope with the fact that their life is a giant charade of pompous pious pissy bullshittery; that they're a fraud and they know it

my mom was a soccer mom for awhile and the most she ever needed to cope is lexapro

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 06:28 PM
the vast majority of people who take opiods safely and responsibly dont develop addictions. there are treatments available for those who do. opiods are safe and effective drugs for most people

juji
06-10-2013, 06:28 PM
why Plug Drugs doesn't have a blog?

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 06:30 PM
i have nothing against someone taking codeine when they have chronic back pain or something. i have something against plu gdrugs being a piece of shit and daring to criticize the medical industry when he himself regularly exploits it. its like the people who start a food fight and then learn that their lunch time has been cut in half and then whine about it. its not like your an innocent victim here

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 06:31 PM
theres a whole subsection of books at every department store dedicated to this generation of adult women who secretly hate everyone and everything. Trashy romance, self help books, chicken soup for the used-up, benzoed-out "married to a fat snub-dicked dick-head's" soul

What you need to do is stockpile guns and shoot up everyone in a book store. Whatever you do, do not stop taking drugs. They are like opening your mind's eye mannnn

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 06:31 PM
there's no way around it -- many good medicines have side effects, one of those being obsessive compulsions to misuse the medicine in certain types of patients.

the AMA has many times gotten bad medicine taken off the market, no matter how hard the pushers lobby for it. remember palladone? what about rx heroin?

addicts are addicts before they ever pick up the first drug. it's when that happens that the addiction actively manifests itself, and active addiction is the only way to differentiate between the two. like most side effects, it affects a mniority of patients. in the meantime, millions of non-addicts are able to function without debilitating pain.
heroin sucks dude, its fucking garbage.. they've done blind studies where most addicts preferred morphine over heroin; a sort of pepsi challenge for junkies. But we've all made heroin the "big villain" for some reason :shrug:
i think its because nobody gives a shit until we're on the verge of a perceived epidemic.
I agree, morphine and company shouldnt be sold at your local corner store, with kids running around with syringes willy nilly and whatever, it should be regulated - But still legal. Classes should be required on the safe use of drugs.
People need to start coming up with real facts and solutions about the drugs they preach about - no more superstition.

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 06:32 PM
uh morphine is legal

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 06:32 PM
also, heroin is a horrible drug that lots of retards use. they dont even shoot powdered heroin, they shoot that black tar shit into their muscles and they literally die horribel deaths

juji
06-10-2013, 06:33 PM
shut the fuck up idiots

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 06:33 PM
the vast majority of people who take opiods safely and responsibly dont develop addictions. there are treatments available for those who do. opiods are safe and effective drugs for most people

Most people who have to take opioids don't get the body buzz and euphoria that addicts get. They just feel dizzy groggy and nauseous but the tradeoff is they aren't screaming in agony 24/7

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 06:34 PM
Most people who have to take opioids don't get the body buzz and euphoria that addicts get. They just feel dizzy groggy and nauseous but the tradeoff is they aren't screaming in agony 24/7

thats what theyre supposed to do, but the ppl who get euphoria dont get it because theyre addicts. its a pharmacological fact that if youre in pain you get no euphoria

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 06:35 PM
there are also drugs to control opiod-induced nausea and it often resolves by itself after a week or two on the drug. :retardedfaggotguy:

always stevey
06-10-2013, 06:35 PM
die

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 06:36 PM
die

I want to die. Please strangle me, cag. Tie me up and murder me.

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 06:36 PM
i have nothing against someone taking codeine when they have chronic back pain or something. i have something against plu gdrugs being a piece of shit and daring to criticize the medical industry when he himself regularly exploits it. its like the people who start a food fight and then learn that their lunch time has been cut in half and then whine about it. its not like your an innocent victim here
i just explained to you i dont exploit shit
as for recreational drug use, humans have been using drugs recreationally for thousands of years and nothing, nothing, is going to change our innate desire to use drugs - short of a police state where we've thrown away every personal liberty after becoming convinced that drug users are the sole source plaguing society

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 06:38 PM
i just explained to you i dont exploit shit
as for recreational drug use, humans have been using drugs recreationally for thousands of years and nothing, nothing, is going to change our innate desire to use drugs - short of a police state where we've thrown away every personal liberty after becoming convinced that drug users are the sole source plaguing society

lmao as if im reading further than the first sentence of any post u make Mate.

rubycalaber
06-10-2013, 06:38 PM
a police state where we've thrown away every personal liberty after becoming convinced that drug users are the sole source plaguing society

sounds good to me!

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 06:39 PM
thats what theyre supposed to do, but the ppl who get euphoria dont get it because theyre addicts. its a pharmacological fact that if youre in pain you get no euphoria
is this honestly what they tell you?
Opiates dont block the physical sensation of pain, they make you not give a shit that you're in pain

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 06:46 PM
there's an internal subconscious process taking place when it comes to physical pain: say your arm gets cut off and the sensation of pain arrives from the peripheral nervous system to the central nervous system, it goes through a subconscious process before it comes to your conscious awareness. If it is not efficient for the sensation of pain to be brought to conscious awareness, the sensation will be blocked out subconsciously. Although the pain can still be felt consciously if the individual consciously thinks about it, the subconscious aspect will not bring the sensation of pain to conscious awareness unless the conscious aspect inquires it.

Conscious awareness of the arm being cut off is likely to cause panic -- where as if it is best for immediate survival for higher consciousness NOT to be aware of the arm being cut off, the subconscious aspect will not make higher consciousness aware of the pain.

Endorphins, and by extension opiates/opioids (which are agonists of the same receptors), are a part of this process.

A person on an opiate/opioid can still feel pain if they think about it - opiates do not physically block the sensation of pain.

always stevey
06-10-2013, 06:47 PM
is this honestly what they tell you?
Opiates dont block the physical sensation of pain, they make you not give a shit that you're in pain

wrong

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 06:50 PM
...opiates do not physically block the sensation of pain.


http://courses.washington.edu/conj/sensory/pain.htm

...The enkephalins (and dynorphin) are found in the periaqueductal gray, the medulla and the dorsal horns. Observe the pathway to the left that descends from the periaqueductal gray via the medulla to the dorsal horns. This leads to the release from interneurons of enkephalins that inhibit the flow of pain information to the brain....

rubycalaber
06-10-2013, 06:52 PM
uhhh I am pretty sure people just go into shock when their arm gets cut off and thats why it sometimes seems they dont notice when you see videos of people getting their legs blown off and shit

always stevey
06-10-2013, 06:56 PM
yeah people would go into shock.

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 06:57 PM
ya turns out the guy getting a pharmd knows more than the cart pusher at walmart about drugs

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:01 PM
every junky is a hack-expert on internal medicine, just don't try asking us what beta-blockers do to our S-T intervals because that shit doesn't even fuck you up mannnnn so who cares

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 07:04 PM
the vast majority of people who take opiods safely and responsibly dont develop addictions. there are treatments available for those who do. opiods are safe and effective drugs for most people

and why do you think i'm any different?
I wouldn't WANT to take opiates/opioids every day; by day 3-4 they're not euphoric anymore and just make me tired, no matter how much I took. I don't understand how people become physically addicted unless they just suck at taking drugs, or just keeping taking it anyways after the euphoria is gone because they dont know what else to do
we should legalize them all and require classes on safe drug use to be taken - problem solved. That way, people would only use drugs when they were in the right state of mind for taking them to their benefit, instead of just addicting themselves to them.

m0nde
06-10-2013, 07:06 PM
ya turns out the guy getting a pharmd knows more than the cart pusher at walmart about drugslol

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:07 PM
and why do you think i'm any different?
I wouldn't WANT to take opiates/opioids every day; by day 3-4 they're not euphoric anymore and just make me tired, no matter how much I took. I don't understand how people become physically addicted unless they just suck at taking drugs, or just keeping taking it anyways after the euphoria is gone because they dont know what else to do
we should legalize them all and require classes on safe drug use to be taken - problem solved. That way, people would only use drugs when they were in the right state of mind for taking them to their benefit, instead of just addicting themselves to them.

i really hope this forum db is intact when you hit bottom so you can look back at this shit
i used opiates "successfully" for 10 fucking years before i lost control and they stopped helping me escape disappointment

Camoron
06-10-2013, 07:10 PM
rootbeer sucks

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 07:10 PM
every junky is a hack-expert on internal medicine, just don't try asking us what beta-blockers do to our S-T intervals because that shit doesn't even fuck you up mannnnn so who cares

i looked into alpha and beta blockers because i was interested in using them to suppress vascular constriction while on amphetamine, but that was a while back and, you're right, i don't care. I don't know why you would either unless you're trying to see if you can get your heart to beat to the rhythm of mary had a little lamb or something

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:12 PM
i looked into alpha and beta blockers because i was interested in using them to suppress vascular constriction while on amphetamine, but that was a while back and, you're right, i don't care. I don't know why you would either unless you're trying to see if you can get your heart to beat to the rhythm of mary had a little lamb or something

i (incorrectly) thought it would alleviate the hypertension-related spasming and jerking i suffered during my last few months at that army job
because the mixture of xanax valium and ativan i was taking with my morphine just wasn't cutting it

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 07:13 PM
i really hope this forum db is intact when you hit bottom so you can look back at this shit
i used opiates "successfully" for 10 fucking years before i lost control and they stopped helping me escape disappointment
you used your own body for strange drug experiments Dr Frankenstein style; that's not using drugs successfully that's just.. creepy

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:16 PM
you used your own body for strange drug experiments Dr Frankenstein style; that's not using drugs successfully that's just.. creepy

i just did whatever it took not to feel
besides, dosing on narcotics to the point of hypoxia is real living, you said so yourself like on page 1

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 07:20 PM
i (incorrectly) thought it would alleviate the hypertension-related spasming and jerking i suffered during my last few months at that army job
because the mixture of xanax valium and ativan i was taking with my morphine just wasn't cutting it
benzos cut opiate euphoria anyways; so you were looking for sedation not euphoria
there's a lot of opiate users like you, "having a good time" isn't their agenda, they just want to get as fucked up as possible for whatever reason. I like being in control

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 07:20 PM
i (incorrectly) thought it would alleviate the hypertension-related spasming and jerking i suffered during my last few months at that army job
because the mixture of xanax valium and ativan i was taking with my morphine just wasn't cutting it

see a doctor lol

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 07:21 PM
people who stack depressants like that are just flirting with death

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 07:21 PM
take a muscle relaxant or something... Mate.

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 07:21 PM
people who stack depressants like that are just flirting with death

and you arent mr. 210 doses of oxy a day

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 07:22 PM
besides, dosing on narcotics to the point of hypoxia is real living, you said so yourself like on page 1

i was joking

m0nde
06-10-2013, 07:23 PM
you three could open your own pharmacy and have doli work behind the counter

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 07:24 PM
and you arent mr. 210 doses of oxy a day

it is very very difficult to overdose on just an opiate itself (excluding the synthetics like methadone, which sometimes can end up just killing a person for no real reason at all - NMDA antagonism might have something to do with methadone's high toxicity)

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 07:24 PM
you three could open your own pharmacy and have doli work behind the counter

i never want to work with addicts unless there the ppl pushing the carts around

rootbeer
06-10-2013, 07:25 PM
it is very very difficult to overdose on just an opiate itself
:uwotm8:

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:25 PM
benzos cut opiate euphoria anyways; so you were looking for sedation not euphoria
there's a lot of opiate users like you, "having a good time" isn't their agenda, they just want to get as fucked up as possible for whatever reason. I like being in control

after some period of chronic use, having a good time on opiates alone becomes impractical, then impossible. there's nothing special or particularly different about the way i used.

rootbeer
06-10-2013, 07:26 PM
is there a reason to not put pd on ignore?

m0nde
06-10-2013, 07:26 PM
plug drugs would keep the riff raff out and youcould focus on the cash register
and bob hugs could chat up the old people

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 07:26 PM
it is very very difficult to overdose on just an opiate itself (excluding the synthetics like methadone, which sometimes can end up just killing a person for no real reason at all - NMDA antagonism might have something to do with methadone's high toxicity)

opiod overdose is the second leading cause of accidental death you colossal fucking retard

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:27 PM
people who stack depressants like that are just flirting with death

which became an incredible thrill for me, once the opiate euphoria was no longer attainable

m0nde
06-10-2013, 07:28 PM
ask bob hugs. bob hugs were you in hospital for opiod overdose?

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 07:29 PM
in all honesty if you take opiods on the regular you need to have Naloxone available at all times and if you dont you are a total moron

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:29 PM
see a doctor lol

it's better now. and at the time i thought i was smarter than my doctor because drugs

m0nde
06-10-2013, 07:30 PM
bob hugs, did you have nixon all around when you were messing with methadone?

Camoron
06-10-2013, 07:30 PM
plug drugs backpeddling lol

m0nde
06-10-2013, 07:30 PM
hey, stop attacking plug drugs

rootbeer
06-10-2013, 07:30 PM
...at the time i thought i was smarter than my doctor because drugs

hmmm sounds like another poster we all know :killyourself:

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:31 PM
i was joking

no. no, you backpedalling faggot

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:31 PM
:raged: im taking a fucking shower and going to my gf's

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 07:34 PM
grats on being sober dude

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:35 PM
ask bob hugs. bob hugs were you in hospital for opiod overdose?

i had an o/d of opiates in my system and they gave me the full dose of narcan
but what sent me to the er was the 6,000mg phenobarb i mixed with 12oz of bourbon because i decided to prove to myself once and for all that i'm immortal. well here i am mother fuckers, here i am. forever.

blumpkin blownuts
06-10-2013, 07:37 PM
grats on being sober dude

thanks, but now that i'm achieving my dreams i've neevr felt higher tbh

m0nde
06-10-2013, 07:38 PM
i had an o/d of opiates in my system and they gave me the full dose of narcan
but what sent me to the er was the 6,000mg phenobarb i mixed with 12oz of bourbon because i decided to prove to myself once and for all that i'm immortal. well here i am mother fuckers, here i am. forever.you're the man

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 07:41 PM
:uwotm8:
how CNS depressants kill you during an overdose is by lowering your respiratory rate down to the point that it simply stops -- and this means you also have to be unconscious (i.e., have fallen asleep or passed out).
A single CNS depressant by itself will not do this typically, because the rest of the neurological pathways in your brain not affected by the drug will still be functioning enough to keep up respiratory rate. However, when CNS depressants are mixed (more than one type of CNS depressant is taken), more areas of the brain have their activity inhibited, and the level of sedation compounds.

i would pop a gram of oxycodone right in front of you with confidence that it wouldn't kill me. Although, it would give me a very very bad time, and i'd likely be unconscious within 10 minutes and be shaking/twitching, perhaps even convulsing - I would still live through it.

So long as its only one CNS depressant in your system, the rule of thumb is that you'll be fine.

A major risk is that there are many over the counter medications, herbs, supplements, and thousands of other things which act as CNS depressants, and can kill a person when they're on an already high dose of a CNS depressant.
Some of these lesser known CNS depressants include things like valerian root in certain kinds of tea, allergy medications (anti-histamines), motion sickness pills (such as dramamine/dimenhydrinate, which is also an antihistamine), blood pressure medications (propranolol, a beta-blocker), and even anti-depressants and anxiolytics like zoloft, effexor, paxil, lexapro, yadda yadda yadda have affinity as an H-1 antagonist and cause sedations.

That's how a lot of celebrities die; they get prescribed so much shit and none of their doctors are really keeping an eye on it, and before they know it they've got 7-8 CNS depressants in their system, have a couple drinks, then pass out and die

Camoron
06-10-2013, 07:47 PM
plug drugs talks too much

Gentleman Doli
06-10-2013, 07:48 PM
how CNS depressants kill you during an overdose is by lowering your respiratory rate down to the point that it simply stops -- and this means you also have to be unconscious (i.e., have fallen asleep or passed out).
A single CNS depressant by itself will not do this typically, because the rest of the neurological pathways in your brain not affected by the drug will still be functioning enough to keep up respiratory rate. However, when CNS depressants are mixed (more than one type of CNS depressant is taken), more areas of the brain have their activity inhibited, and the level of sedation compounds.

i would pop a gram of oxycodone right in front of you with confidence that it wouldn't kill me. Although, it would give me a very very bad time, and i'd likely be unconscious within 10 minutes and be shaking/twitching, perhaps even convulsing - I would still live through it.

So long as its only one CNS depressant in your system, the rule of thumb is that you'll be fine.

A major risk is that there are many over the counter medications, herbs, supplements, and thousands of other things which act as CNS depressants, and can kill a person when they're on an already high dose of a CNS depressant.
Some of these lesser known CNS depressants include things like valerian root in certain kinds of tea, allergy medications (anti-histamines), motion sickness pills (such as dramamine/dimenhydrinate, which is also an antihistamine), blood pressure medications (propranolol, a beta-blocker), and even anti-depressants and anxiolytics like zoloft, effexor, paxil, lexapro, yadda yadda yadda have affinity as an H-1 antagonist and cause sedations.

That's how a lot of celebrities die; they get prescribed so much shit and none of their doctors are really keeping an eye on it, and before they know it they've got 7-8 CNS depressants in their system, have a couple drinks, then pass out and die

alternatively you stop breathing and you die

Camoron
06-10-2013, 07:49 PM
how CNS depressants kill you during an overdose is by lowering your respiratory rate down to the point that it simply stops -- and this means you also have to be unconscious (i.e., have fallen asleep or passed out).
A single CNS depressant by itself will not do this typically, because the rest of the neurological pathways in your brain not affected by the drug will still be functioning enough to keep up respiratory rate. However, when CNS depressants are mixed (more than one type of CNS depressant is taken), more areas of the brain have their activity inhibited, and the level of sedation compounds.

i would pop a gram of oxycodone right in front of you with confidence that it wouldn't kill me. Although, it would give me a very very bad time, and i'd likely be unconscious within 10 minutes and be shaking/twitching, perhaps even convulsing - I would still live through it.

So long as its only one CNS depressant in your system, the rule of thumb is that you'll be fine.

A major risk is that there are many over the counter medications, herbs, supplements, and thousands of other things which act as CNS depressants, and can kill a person when they're on an already high dose of a CNS depressant.
Some of these lesser known CNS depressants include things like valerian root in certain kinds of tea, allergy medications (anti-histamines), motion sickness pills (such as dramamine/dimenhydrinate, which is also an antihistamine), blood pressure medications (propranolol, a beta-blocker), and even anti-depressants and anxiolytics like zoloft, effexor, paxil, lexapro, yadda yadda yadda have affinity as an H-1 antagonist and cause sedations.

That's how a lot of celebrities die; they get prescribed so much shit and none of their doctors are really keeping an eye on it, and before they know it they've got 7-8 CNS depressants in their system, have a couple drinks, then pass out and die

:words:

m0nde
06-10-2013, 07:49 PM
higher quality wall than lisa or barryshithead text
i'm trying to read that right now

Plug Drugs
06-10-2013, 07:50 PM
i had an o/d of opiates in my system and they gave me the full dose of narcan
but what sent me to the er was the 6,000mg phenobarb i mixed with 12oz of bourbon because i decided to prove to myself once and for all that i'm immortal. well here i am mother fuckers, here i am. forever.
when i was 16 and on a bunch of klonopin and ambien, a few days after selling my soul to the devil, i took a serrated knife and proceeded to slash it across my wrists as hard as i could multiple times. Although it rended flesh and cut the main vein, i could not get the flow of blood to be substantial enough to kill me, it just sort of pooled and that was that.
For me, it felt like taking a fully loaded revolver and aiming it at my head, pulling the trigger, only for it to click six times in a row and have nothing happen
i guess what i'm saying is, i think i'm immortal too bruh *bro hug*

although i could have just hallucinated it all from all the ambien o.O i dont know, that whole 6 months of my life is nothing but a blur, with like a highlight reel of the weirdest shit that happened being the only things i can remember

m0nde
06-10-2013, 07:50 PM
why did you go across?

rootbeer
06-10-2013, 07:52 PM
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