Someone with a future interest in Disney stock is trying to steal the song "Der Zauberlehrling" aka "The Sorcerer's Apprentice"

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The song is public domain, composed in the late 19th century based on a poem by Goethe.

How are they 'stealing' it? They have flooded YouTube with fake piano video playings of a different song titled "Der Zauberlehrling".

Ultimately, they would seek royalties whenever the actual song is played sometime in the future when Fantasia is rereleased.

This is easily a $15 million USD steal. Quite a nice retirement package for only having to pay 20 people to play the wrong song and erase it from history.

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This is the random smashing of piano keys they're trying to pass off as the song:

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And here is the actual song:

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Why it matters:
The playing of the song is a German tradition. Each year, typically on the night before Halloween, mom or dad starts playing the piano as the kids are falling asleep on the couch. It starts out sounding like a suspicious lullaby, then frantically loudness and quickens, causing the kids to jolt awake. The other parent then instructs the children to get ready for bed, brush their teeth, wash the dishes, etc while mom or dad is playing the rest of the song.

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This investment scheme group, although not likely Disney stockholders at the moment will buy stock when a rerelease of Fantasia occurs sometime in the future to push usage fees on radio stations, TV, YouTube, etc for playings of The Sorcerer's Apprentice. When all is said and done, this is millions of dollars in profit.

the copyright office keeps records of the sheet music, fuck off

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the copyright office keeps records of the sheet music, fuck off

No one will remember, they'll change one note or raise the pitch or include different instruments and own the damn song. The worst part is them trying to change history

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[steveyos]

this is serious prof of govrmnet kacen get in here it's finally time

they have a physical print out of the sheet music in their office if it's registered there. you can't "change one note" because if it's close enough it counts. also changing the instrument doesn't change the note, what's wrong with you bro

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Also I was wrong; they'd definitely be Disney higher ups right now, and have already cut the deals to their own accounts somehow. A $15 million steal for probably 10-15 inner circle higher ups. They hire a corporate psychoanalyst team to find as many little changes like this they can make, and have them do all the dirty work

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Can you make some of these posts private? I don't want to find out how Disney owning YouTube duping culture burglars retaliate when someone gets in their way of millions of dollars

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Wait.. let's get them to post here!

yeah i just made them private. only we can see them

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they have a physical print out of the sheet music in their office if it's registered there. you can't "change one note" because if it's close enough it counts. also changing the instrument doesn't change the note, what's wrong with you bro

See, there's playing the song Sorcerer's Apprentice on the radio, and then there's playing Disney's playing of Sorcerer's Apprentice on the radio. If the song is cut from the film, they are usually in a position to charge money for playing it. However, that's only bexause no one wants to waste their life in court arguing about whether it's their song or the orchestra's song. Shouldn't that entire orchestra be contacted as to the contractual nature of things 50-60 years later??

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Doesn't matter, the weight of paperwork from Disney's legal team will cause most to pay for using it somehow, and even if only some do, it's still a million dollar steal. And in 100 years if they keep changing things little by little, people might actually think it's just there's.

Disney could end up owning everything in the future at the cost of the accuracy of civilization's perception of history

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Long long term family or company trust funds could be juggling these things right now over something that could take 100 years to finally obtain ownership of, it's fucking insanity

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So what the hell I guess, German cultural heirloom Der Zauberlehrling just becomes people randomly hitting notes. The only thing preserving history here is like 2 wikipedia pages and probably 10-20 thousand German copies of sheet music

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You can't even find Goethe at a big chain book store, because he wrote so many damn stories that some have said every archetype of a fantastical short story has been written down now, due to Goethe 's influence on German literature

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Faust -- Goethe's version is retold the most, but is an archetypal German (and others) folk story. Any movie or story where the main character gets what they wish for but it ends up not being what they wanted or expected is just a variant of the Faust archetype

Sorcerer's Apprentice -- an unforseen cascade of consequences arising from sloth. Half life 1 is just a sci Fi retelling of a short poem by Goethe

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Wikipedia copy paste incoming:

"Thinkers such as Ralph Waldo Emerson would take up many similar ideas in the 1800s. Goethe's ideas on evolution would frame the question that Darwin and Wallace would approach within the scientific paradigm. The Serbian inventor and electrical engineer Nikola Tesla was heavily influenced by Goethe's Faust, his favorite poem, and had actually memorized the entire text. It was while reciting a certain verse that he was struck with the epiphany that would lead to the idea of the rotating magnetic field and ultimately, alternating current.[72]"

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The guy is credited with like, literally everything. He was a father figure of the enlightenment

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"In addition, there are numerous literary and scientific fragments, more than 10,000 letters"

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In other words, if something could be described in German, Goethe probably wrote about it already

[steveyos]

marco get the drum bunker ready

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This is all a good thing, however, because Goethe having done everything first means that everything in its simplicity is public domain, and should remain public domain forever. Unique works are still copyrightable, but no one can ever copyright an archetype now

[steveyos]

we need more ammo and 2x4's people let's go