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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    name how Donald trump has damaged the bill of rights
    besides the muslim ban? he's threatened the press for reporting negative stories about him, going as far as threatening to have the FBI arrest them, advocated extrajudicial and cruel/unusual punishment, and undermined the judicial branch.

    he also violated the enoulments clause but I guess that's not technically in the bill of rights but the constitution proper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    Im not talking to you, Im talking to Maks
    and your not debating me, have you yielded to me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    and your not debating me, have you yielded to me?
    You may act like Steffies Yelle who defends Trump, you never change


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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    besides the muslim ban?
    it was struck down right?

    he's threatened the press for reporting negative stories about him, going as far as threatening to have the FBI arrest them,
    MSM who literally print lies

    advocated extrajudicial and cruel/unusual punishment,
    advocation isn't the same as actually impeding your rights. also do you mind clarifying if im missing something specific?

    and undermined the judicial branch.
    by appointing Gorsuch? again sorry I need clarification

    he also violated the enoulments clause but I guess that's not technically in the bill of rights but the constitution proper.
    'shall not accept of any present, Emolument [a salary, fee, or profit from employment or office- might not be the same as payments for services rendered (contracted)], Office, or Title, of any kind'

    I could see why you would think its dubious because he still owns the business but as far as I can see the lawsuit is still pending so maybe i'll be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    You may act like Steffies Yelle who defends Trump, you never change
    one dimensional steven yelle

    he won't change because he has no one to help him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    it was struck down right?
    So if I break the law and get caught, it's ok because I got caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    MSM who literally print lies
    First amendment says that's perfectly legal and the federal government can't stop them

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    by appointing Gorsuch? again sorry I need clarification
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...robart-n717626

    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    'shall not accept of any present, Emolument [a salary, fee, or profit from employment or office- might not be the same as payments for services rendered (contracted)], Office, or Title, of any kind'

    I could see why you would think its dubious because he still owns the business but as far as I can see the lawsuit is still pending so maybe i'll be wrong.
    As soon as that one's over he's going to be facing another one https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.e7043327cd28
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    brb raping and murdering your family, but it's all good cause the police will pick me up in a few days
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    So if I break the law and get caught, it's ok because I got caught?
    8 U.S. Code 1182 - Inadmissible aliens: (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

    he didn't break the law, past presidents did the same thing, and this is some new precedent being set

    (MSM lies) First amendment says that's perfectly legal and the federal government can't stop them

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...robart-n717626

    "The concern is that repeated attacks on individual judges could diminish the confidence that people have that judges are ruling on cases in accordance with the law," University of Pittsburgh Law Professor Arthur Hellman told NBC News.
    "You can disagree with a judge's conclusion, but judges reach their conclusions based on the arguments from both sides," Hellman said. "To personalize it and make it seem like the judge is doing it for no good reason is troubling.
    "The concern is that repeated attacks on the president could diminish the confidence that people have that the president is acting in accordance with the law. You can disagree with a president's actions, but the president has reached his conclusions based on obstruction from both sides. To personalize it and make it seem like the president is doing it for no good reason is troubling."

    the propaganda machine is painfully easy to refute. it's completely one dimensional lol

    As soon as that one's over he's going to be facing another one https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.e7043327cd28
    i'm literally shaking! (if he broke the law, he broke the law, but only time will tell)
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    brb raping and murdering your family, but it's all good cause the police will pick me up in a few days
    this but unironically lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    8 U.S. Code 1182 - Inadmissible aliens: (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

    he didn't break the law, past presidents did the same thing, and this is some new precedent being set
    we've covered this like 40 times now, what trump's doing is different, and it's unconstitutional. the first amendment doesn't protect nationality but it sure as fuck protects religion.
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    did you ever wonder if maybe everything looks one dimensional because there's only one side here and no amount of mental gymnastics is going to change that?
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    I'm more interested in why are you so determined to hand over your rights why now after 250 years is it necessary to throw the constitution out the window
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    we've covered this like 40 times now, what trump's doing is different, and it's unconstitutional. the first amendment doesn't protect nationality but it sure as fuck protects religion.
    you claimed he broke the law when there is no law- i'm well aware the court found it unconstitutional and like i said its a new precedent because presidents have used the same authority before.

    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    did you ever wonder if maybe everything looks one dimensional because there's only one side here and no amount of mental gymnastics is going to change that?
    did you ever wonder if things on the surface could be different underneath? propaganda operates one dimensionally do you trust propaganda or do you think critically?

    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    I'm more interested in why are you so determined to hand over your rights why now after 250 years is it necessary to throw the constitution out the window
    im interested in why you think donald trump is responsible for the expansion of government over the past two centuries when hes only been in government for 17 months lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    you claimed he broke the law when there is no law- i'm well aware the court found it unconstitutional and like i said its a new precedent because presidents have used the same authority before.
    The first amendment is a law, numb nuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    did you ever wonder if things on the surface could be different underneath? propaganda operates one dimensionally do you trust propaganda or do you think critically?
    Oh hi aren't you the same guy who's on his second straight day of passionately defending a criminal who wants to take your rights away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cag. View Post
    I'm lost
    All you gotta remember is that the constitution is good, and violating it, well, violating it is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    All you gotta remember is that the constitution is good, and violating it, well, violating it is bad.
    what I have
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    The first amendment is a law, numb nuts
    breaking the law results in civil or criminal penalties. the constitution establishes the relationship between the federal government and the states. there is no meaningful way to punish the state or federal government. trump can be ordered to follow the constitution. if he refused he could be imprisoned for contempt and impeached after conviction. Is there a muslim ban being enforced?

    when slavery was ruled unconstitutional, were the slave owners penalized? the 13th amendment prohibits the government from recognizing slaves as property. it also allowed congress to pass a LAW prohibiting slavery. if the slave owners refused to give up their slaves, they could be penalized by the LAW not the 13th amendment.

    *NON AGRESSIVE MESSAGE PLEASE READ* idc if you misspoke when you said broke the law, I don't want to argue semantics I want to debate your grievances

    Oh hi aren't you the same guy who's on his second straight day of passionately defending a criminal who wants to take your rights away
    im interested in why you think donald trump is responsible for the expansion of government over the past two centuries when hes only been in government for 17 months lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    im interested in why you think donald trump is responsible for the expansion of government over the past two centuries when hes only been in government for 17 months lol
    idc about the last 2 centuries I'm concerned about the last 4 months
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    Trump hates freedom of speech


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    what a coincidence so does lonnie, in fact he'd like to get rid of the entire bill of rights
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    If you speak BASH commands irl, ICE would check your ID to prove you're not an alien


    Quote Originally Posted by Steffies Yelle View Post
    I'll kill myself live on cam as soon as there's proof I literlaly promise, I will sincerely kill myself as soon as I see elz's computer playing arma 3 maxed with all nvidia exclusive graphics
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