I'm going to boycott every site that went black today to protest sopa

[maks]

I'm no fan of sopa or pipa but these sites are missing the point, they're punishing their users for something that is not within the users' control. They're failing at providing the service they exist to provide just to prove a point. Here's the list so far of sites I will never use again

reddit.com
osnews.com
distrowatch.com

[maks]

wikipedia.org
demonoid.me
xda-developers.com
sda-developers.com


so basically half the websites I use I will never use again. I guess I'm going to be spending a lot more time here and on slashdot

[maks]

Can someone recommend a good private torrent site now that demonoid is on my shitlist?

i sympathize with your criticism, because i wanted to use imgur earlier and couldnt.. which was an inconvenience.

i imagine you are pretty firm in your belief that they are missing the point, and any attempt to debate the issue with you will be futile.. but i think perhaps i could illustrate a point you may have overlooked:

the taking down of certain sites in protest serves as a simulation of what may be in effect if the sopa bill is passed.. therefore, taking a radical step such as taking a whole site offline might serve to prove a stronger point to casual browsers of the internet than if there were merely a message on the site that brings up sopa. the user is 'punished' as you point out, not being able to access the site, but that punishment will be permanently in place by the government if nothing is done to stop the bill. you mention 'not within the users control' .. but the point of the blackout is to bring awareness to users in a very radical way of what is happening and for users to call their congressman which IS something that is within their control. you are perfectly within your right to protest the protest, but i think your outrage should be redirected at the legislation behind sopa, IMO. btw i really dont even give a fuck about any of the sopa shit, and i think 'pipa' and 'sopa' would make really good porn stage names for a couple of cute twin girls.

[Kacen]

Admittedly the thought of Reddit disappearing is making SOPA seem kinda enticing.

[maks]

i sympathize with your criticism, because i wanted to use imgur earlier and couldnt.. which was an inconvenience.

i imagine you are pretty firm in your belief that they are missing the point, and any attempt to debate the issue with you will be futile.. but i think perhaps i could illustrate a point you may have overlooked:

the taking down of certain sites in protest serves as a simulation of what may be in effect if the sopa bill is passed.. therefore, taking a radical step such as taking a whole site offline might serve to prove a stronger point to casual browsers of the internet than if there were merely a message on the site that brings up sopa. the user is 'punished' as you point out, not being able to access the site, but that punishment will be permanently in place by the government if nothing is done to stop the bill. you mention 'not within the users control' .. but the point of the blackout is to bring awareness to users in a very radical way of what is happening and for users to call their congressman which IS something that is within their control. you are perfectly within your right to protest the protest, but i think your outrage should be redirected at the legislation behind sopa, IMO. btw i really dont even give a fuck about any of the sopa shit, and i think 'pipa' and 'sopa' would make really good porn stage names for a couple of cute twin girls.

I'm all for grassroots protests, but they can be done properly. Take a look at http://thedailywtf.com, at first glance they're down like everyone else, but about 3/4 of the way down the page there is a link to an IP address, clicking this link will let you into the website, giving people who don't care about SOPA and just want to look at examples of humorous bad code a way around the bitchy nag screen. Google's another good one, they changed their logo and gave a link to bitch to your congressmen but still let the users access what they want/need to access. Locking people out entirely is not the way to bring them around to your way of thinking, it's only going to irritate people.

[maks]

Admittedly the thought of Reddit disappearing is making SOPA seem kinda enticing.

if you want to kill reddit all you have to do is get rid of 4chan and huffington post, that's where 100% of their content comes from.

[maks]

another example of doing it right from http://slashdot.org

"Note: This will be the last story we post today until 6pm EST in protest of SOPA."

Fine, they're not updating their content, ensuring that the SOPA story stays at the top for a while, but they're not preventing anyone from reading or commenting on previous stories. Bravo to slashdot for being smart enough to somehow figure this out.

[Desolation]

The demographic of visitors that go to these websites are non-voters so it's not like this is going to accomplish anything. I never realized how much I use Wikipedia until today.

[cberry]

The demographic of visitors that go to these websites are non-voters so it's not like this is going to accomplish anything. I never realized how much I use Wikipedia until today.

25 minutes later

[Desolation]

Like I said, WorldStarHipHop is down

[rubycalaber]

yesssssss, your fight is with the websites providing you free content and not those trying to take it away, good little goyem

[rubycalaber]

but yeah it is gay, there are ways around the wikipedia blackout though: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Engli...ad_blackout.3F

I use it every like ten minutes and have had ?banner=none on my clipboard all day

[maks]

The demographic of visitors that go to these websites are non-voters so it's not like this is going to accomplish anything. I never realized how much I use Wikipedia until today.

non voters and also people who are already against SOPA so basically these sites are accomplishing nothing

[maks]

yesssssss, your fight is with the websites providing you free content and not those trying to take it away, good little goyem

These sites aren't free nor are they providing any content. they're providing a place where the users can create their content for them, and they're supported by ad revenues.

[rubycalaber]

wikipedia isnt supported by ad revenues and its been making the news so it might sway some opinions

all the other websites doing it are retarded though since it's just going to piss off their small userbase and nothing else

hang on I just checked reddit and saw this



good! fuck minecraft

[jon]

wikipedia's not down at all, i disabled their scripts with noscript first thing this morning

only reddit, etc. is actually protesting by changing the content of their site

[jon]

regarding "simulation" its true but why no protests for all kinds of other internet-killing bullshit laws? everyone in the fucking country is protesting SOPA except for the one asshole congressman that wrote it, lamar smith

so big deal you coordinate a lively protest for something everyone already hates anyway

where is all the uncoordinated, democratic, grassroots anything? here it is: a nation full of high schoolers posting on facebook (still up) about wikipedia being down https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia

why do reddit users support IP laws and net neutrality and think they're taking a different stance on this one

they're not

[jon]

DaynaDelmastro Dayna Delmastro
aight so congress is fucking retarded ? what the fuck do i do without google and wikipedia before midterms ?
7 hours ago
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Gabriella Bakalian
gabie53 Gabriella Bakalian
Dear FUCKING US CONGRESS I don't know what the fuck u did but I fucking wnt my wikipedia back so fix it.
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[jon]

a new liberal is born? nope. "fix it"

[jon]

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ddon/noscript/

lol business as usual for the elite power users with firefox+noscript

and hate-spewing, rabble-rousing for the masses. "hey faggot if you don't like it why not call a congressman???"

where have i heard people complaining about that precise shit before?

oh

right

zuccotti park

im have one of my friends at school wear a waldo shirt and i will make everyone say wheres waldo
justinbieber32710 23 hours ago

[jon]

so maks

reddit's back up

[rubycalaber]

Like the lizard forum for example? WTF was Iggy thinking? Like members of a near dead troll site care about propoganda and platitude. It funny as hell how serious she takes her proverbial hole in the internet wall.

did she really blackout her site? probably a cover story for getting hacked by the milkshade clique again

a nation full of high schoolers posting on facebook (still up) about wikipedia being down https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia

lmao at the three tweets in a row blaming obama for "taking away wikipedia"

"I'LL FUCK SHIT UP THO IF THEY SHUT DOWN WIKIPEDIA. THAT'S A DAMN GOOD WEBSITE. I LET THE GOVERNMENT KNOW THEY FUCKED WIT THE WRONG NIGGA"

[Greg Blake Age: 41 (412) 824-6478 1700 James St Monroeville, PA 15146 racerx111@verizon.net]

[maks]

still looking for a new torrent site

[jon]

download a news reader

[jon]

i recommend grabit

[maks]

I gave up on usenet when at&t shut their servers down. I like bittorrent, I constantly get 2.5Mb/s

[ArchbshpDesmndPooPoo]

do one of you post on one of the sass spinoffs there are like 3 smileys from them on here