depends on what kind of contract or employment agreement they make him sign, if he fails a random it might mean more than just getting fired.
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depends on what kind of contract or employment agreement they make him sign, if he fails a random it might mean more than just getting fired.
oxy isn't typically tested for; most employers do 5 panel drug test which only tests for THC, morphine-metabolite based opiates (heroin, codeine, morphine itself, etc), amphetamines (meth, adderall), cocaine, and PCPQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
Isn't it funny by the way that PCP is included on that list? Whens the last time you've ever heard of someone actually using PCP? Even back when PCP had mild popularity, it wasn't used that much. The media just blew it out of proportion to get people on the drug war bandwagon
But anyways, the employers would have to ask for oxy specifically to be tested for, and pay extra for it.
Although, since it is a municipal job, and especially if they hire me to be the driver of the truck (I don't know yet if they are hiring a driver or the guys you see just riding with), then it might be protocol to do a more thorough drug screening
Pretty sure the drivers need a cdl
It's not a crime to have taken drugs in the past, or to even test positive for drugs for that matterQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
It's only a crime to possess drugs or be under the influence of drugs while being negligent (driving a car while high)
id hope it is for the driver position cause pulling garbage all day is more physical then pushing carts for 3-4 hrs
yeah there was something on the application that said something like "If the job you are hired for requires you to have a CDL and you do not currently possess one, are you willing to meet the prerequisites for obtaining one at our expense?" or somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
I like the 'at our expense' part
no it isn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by lnopia the great
Having to throw a few 20lb bags of garbage into a lift every 30 seconds is not more physical than trying to push/steer fifteen carts that weight 75 lbs each non-stop all day
a lot of towns are moving towards the special cans that the driver can pick up with a mechanical arm, so yeah you should go for driver if possible you'll have more potential job security
assuming you don't get canned for doing dope of course
assuming youll be hired for a city job without being drug tested at all
Let it ping all you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody
The only opiate looked for in a standard 5 panel drug test is morphine. This is because heroin is metabolized into morphine and 6-acetyl-morphine rapidly after reaching the brain. You might also be interested to know that the diacetylmorphine (heroin) molecule itself is not active on the central nervous system as an opioid analgesic (it is not an agonist of the mu-opioid receptor); Heroin gets all of its effects from the two main things it is metabolized in to: Morphine and 6-acetyl-morphine
Consequently, codeine will also test positive for opiates on the 5 panel because codeine also metabolizes into morphine.
Oxycodone, however, does not metabolize into morphine at any stage in its metabolism -- the metabolites of oxycodone are oxymorphone and α and β oxycodol, which then go on to also metabolize into other mu-agonists as well.
Somewhat similar to the pharmacokinetics of heroin, the oxycodone molecule itself is not centrally active, and is a very very weak mu-opioid agonist. Oxymorphone however is centrally active by itself (even though it is metabolized into other mu-opioid agonists, although not as rapidly as heroin)
i've carried garbage to the curb my whole life, not all bags are created equal and at least around here they work in a hurry pace. I'm not saying its a physically demanding job but pushing carts lol the fact they weigh 75 lbs means nothing if they have wheelsQuote:
Originally Posted by Plug Drugs
I'm having a tough time believing they weigh 75lbs
can't be more then 50
I'm thinking 30, they're made so little old ladies can use them and slide them around and shit. 75lbs is more like a small pallet jack.
Cars have wheels, they're not the easiest thing in the world to push.Quote:
Originally Posted by lnopia the great
15 carts * 75 lbs = 1125lbs
Cars = 3000+ lbs
Imagine pushing 1/3 the weight of your car around all day, every day
Imagin fucking the shit out of Tim.
the plastic ones weigh 30, the metal-framed ones weigh 75 lbs. Try picking one of the metal ones up off its wheels sometime at walmartQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plug Drugs
if pushing carts is hard work you are gonna do fuck all at this job
I've done it, I used to kick them over and sit on the side when I was waiting for my mom on the sidewalk when I was like 8. I had no trouble pulling them back up on their wheels. I couldn't have weighed much more than 75lbs at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plug Drugs
it was only hard for the first week then i got used to itQuote:
Originally Posted by rootbeer
And until you have actually had to push carts yourself your opinion means fuck all to me
i have told you in another thread that i pushed carts in highschool it was very easy, you just dont remember by a brain damage reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Plug Drugs
http://visual.merriam-webster.com/im...nics/lever.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
Try picking one up entirely off the ground sometime. I'm not saying its impossible or even difficult, but they definitely weigh more than you think they do
maybe we just have lighter carts in connecticut
what year was this? just wonderingQuote:
Originally Posted by rootbeer
and how often/long did you do it? All day every day? Part time? Only when the parking lot needed to be taken care of every couple of hours?
At the walmart supercenter i worked at, the parking lot was jam packed all day. All the cart corrals in the parking lot would fill up in 20 minutes. You had to bust ass none-stop until 8pm when it started to die down, or else the carts would overflow out of the corrals and into the lot and would hit people's cars and shit.
I know there's no way I can get my point across of exactly how shitty it was, and the only person who is ever going to know of the struggle it was is me and the other guys I worked with there
at our walmart they have a little electric cart that does the pushing for them