fuck the "energy crisis"

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

you'll see.. YOU'LL ALL SEE...
i'm going to going to go get a bunch of galvanized poles and copper tubes and jam em in my back yard and hook them up to a generator or some shit then run some electricity through some water and put it into a tank somehow and i'll run my fucking car off it :angry:

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i do have a 2ft copper pipe about 1cm diameter in my room so i am going to try this next week what does the other pipe have to be just anyhting steelish?

codey going out of his way for the 5th time to insist he weas just trolling about being retarded about chemistry

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Originally Posted by Cody

because didnt read whole thread, like i said.

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yeah yeah yeah

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Originally Posted by lnopia the great

i do have a 2ft copper pipe about 1cm diameter in my room so i am going to try this next week what does the other pipe have to be just anyhting steelish?

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the steel/iron has to be galvanized i think, or should be anyways.. if it starts to rust i don't think it'll hold a current or some shit

and i looked into it more, a backyard setup with secondhand materials is only powerful enough to light up an LED light...
there's a whole science behind it on how to get the best voltage/amps out of 'earth batteries' as they call them; apparently they used to power the telegraph system entirely through 'earth batteries' back in the day.

if you wanted to charge a car battery, you'd probably need to have like a whole acre of copper and galvanized iron/steel poles set up with wires running everywhere, and would somehow need to figure out how to increase the amps as to actually make a dent in a car battery. I'm not an electrician; perhaps amps and volts can't simply be added together to higher values.

if you're looking to get 'off the grid' or something, you might be better off buying some 12v solar panels. They're relatively cheap (less than $400).

However, its nice to know that in the event of a zombie apocalypse, electricity can be harnessed in theory using scrap metal plugged into the ground.

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Originally Posted by Cody

ok, going off my limited knowledge here.

I know copper holds a static charge, that's why copper sheeting repels slugs from hosta plants and it looks nice as a flower garden border. I also know that the earth is magnetic, and that magnets are used to create electricity. But attaining a harvestable amount of electricity from the ground seems very far fetched or not worth it, similar to the idea that yes ocean water contains gold, about 1 atom of it per million parts other shit, so not really feasable to harvest it. It would seem that MAYBE under certain curcumstances you could get a little bit, like if there was a really high concentration of copper in the ground there, but if that was the case, copper ore and its byproduct turquoise (oxidized copper) would be more profitable to harvest than the electricity.

Now, explain how i am wrong in terms my little redneck brain can digest.

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do you know what ions are? How about salts? Salts are essentially paired ions (table salt for instance is the paired ions of sodium and chlorine). When salts are put in water, they become ionic again.
Ground water, because it has ions in it, has a weak electric charge. So, when you put a metal that's conductible in contact with the ground water, it will carry a weak electric current.

Now, according to at least several hundred crappy amateur youtube vids, this electric current is significant (about 1 volt of electricity can be generated out of the ground with crude scrap metal).

In theory, you could put a shitload of metal spikes in the ground all hooked up together, and have enough electricity to power small electrical devices or perhaps even a car battery. If you're a survival junkie, that should peak your interest

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Originally Posted by Cody

Back to the copper sheeting, so what you are saying is that the copper itself is not what holds the charge, that its actually moisture content from the fresh water in the ground and the salts in the ground that are electrifying the copper and keeping the slugs off my aunts hostas. correct?

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yeah

electricitiy is an electron moving from one atom to another

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electricitiy is an electron moving from one atom to another

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squares have four sides

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

the steel/iron has to be galvanized i think, or should be anyways.. if it starts to rust i don't think it'll hold a current or some shit

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you're basically talking about the world's largest and weakest potato battery

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Originally Posted by maks

you're basically talking about the world's largest and weakest potato battery

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and i looked into it more, a backyard setup with secondhand materials is only powerful enough to light up an LED light...
there's a whole science behind it on how to get the best voltage/amps out of 'earth batteries' as they call them; apparently they used to power the telegraph system entirely through 'earth batteries' back in the day.

if you wanted to charge a car battery, you'd probably need to have like a whole acre of copper and galvanized iron/steel poles set up with wires running everywhere, and would somehow need to figure out how to increase the amps as to actually make a dent in a car battery. I'm not an electrician; perhaps amps and volts can't simply be added together to higher values.

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if you want higher voltage you wire in series, if you want higher current you wire in parallel. also, voltage = (current * resistance), current = (voltage / resistance), power (watts) = (current * voltage)

something tells me the earth has a pretty high resistance.

first person to say 'wattage' or 'amperage' gets kicked in the cock. it's 'power' and 'current'. fuck you.

well i'm going to add it to my "to do list" to set up a bunch of poles in my backyard someday and get it to charge a car battery, then use that car battery to run electricity through saltwater and get hydrogen gas and try to run my car off it, as proof of concept

will it be cheaper/easier than buying a gallon of gas? probably not

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

well i'm going to add it to my "to do list" to set up a bunch of poles in my backyard someday and get it to charge a car battery, then use that car battery to run electricity through saltwater and get hydrogen gas and try to run my car off it, as proof of concept

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fyi the biproduct is sodium hydroxide, I don't remember exactly what was dangerous about it but it's considered one of the most dangerous industrial chemicals

aka lye

ahh. yes, that's pretty dangerous stuff.

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Originally Posted by Cody

they used to make soap out of it. i have the recipe in one of my foxfire books.

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you must be a bad ass


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lol reminder that "carbon dioxid and other elemene" is not real and in fact was conjured up by late 18th century french alchemists to explain their failure to contain the bourgeoise :stare:

reminder that a cult of jewish bankers descended directtly from the sadducees of old now controls every aspect of our miserable, pathetic lives, and cody is they champion

a reminder that I = P/V

a good car battery is only 13V

it's a couple hundred amps though, and considering 1/10th of an amp can kill you that's a whole lot of current right there

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lol reminder that "carbon dioxid and other elemene" is not real and in fact was conjured up by late 18th century french alchemists to explain their failure to contain the bourgeoise :stare:

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lol