Marco made a sea kitten...
Marco made a sea kitten...
Hitting Bottom
We don't up and decide to attend NA because we're excelling at life or finding ourselves free from problems.
Most addicts are driven to seek help when they are face-to-face with a highly-negative life change, such as divorce, loss of custody, bankruptcy, prison sentences, insanity or death. Not everyone hits the same bottom, or falls to the same extent. Some of us may have hit our bottom years before seeking help, and haven't yet realized just how little we've had for such a long time.
For those of us who haven't been driven into the rooms by a recent horrible event, it is easy to fall into a psychological trap by comparing our own circumstances to those of other addicts. The disease of addiction constantly attempts to fool us and tell us that we aren't "real addicts", or that we still have control over our lives while in active addiction, or that we can resume using after some milestone achieved or lesson learned in recovery.
Most recovering addicts will relapse, and while relapse is not the most desirable way to have our powerlessness over drugs confirmed, it is one of the easiest ways to come to terms with this inevitable conclusion. One of the biggest ways that NA is successful is that relapsing addicts are always encouraged to come back to the rooms, where they can still find love and forgiveness by their fellows, instead of being judged or berated.
As long as an addict keeps coming back, and never loses their desire to be clean, they can easily recover from a relapse before they hit a lower bottom than the circumstances that first brought them to the program.
is that straight out of the pages of the narcotics anonymous book?
bob, let me be honest, i think youre making your problem with drugs out to be this monstrous insolvable ultimatum, and in doing so you're giving your addiction the power to still ruin your life even after the drugs are gone.
You're putting your addiction up on a pedestal, stop it, just want something better for yourself, don't measure things in terms of how high they get you, just stop ittSTOPSPP SOTOPPPTIOpasotopsidrpfsditr
i paraphrased it but yeah it's near the beginning of the Basic TextQuote:
Originally Posted by Plug Drugs
I need drug counseling
it is unsolvable, and the worst part is i did it to myself. what's even worse is all the people who are able to use substances without abusing them, they got some kind of bonus that i didn't get. it's completely fucking unfair, yet -- honestly -- i don't care. it's finally not worth getting upset over anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plug Drugs
i am not defined by my mistakes, but i don't pretend they never happened, because i will be learning from those mistakes and using them to improve myself and my quality of life for the rest of my life. sometimes i feel bad for fucked up people who never got addicted, because recovery is so much more than how to stay clean, it provides incredibly useful tools for learning to live happy, joyous and free.
Keep in mind there's other recovery groups besides 12-step programs, like Reasonable Recovery which teaches addicts they can still use in moderation without ever getting out of control again. I think the doctor who founded that particular group later got behind the wheel drunk and she ended up killing most of a family in an accident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plug Drugs
1 gold box
anyway i'm off to my gf's
i hope you do it mike, but it's up to you to realize whether or not you need help from people like you to improve your life
NA can't remove your desire to get high, you really need to already have that before even bothering with recovery
or maybe you just need to wait until you have REAL fucking problems like i did, before you'll see it for yourself
its just cult doctrine, bob has joined a cult, and its his job to make the cult grow by convincing weak minded people like yourself that a good job and steady pussy can't replace the self medicating you turn to because you hate your life atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plug Drugs
cag pls, join it's the only way this crew can save faceQuote:
Originally Posted by GulDucat
I was the one who showed it to elz in the first place before he founded this crew or whatever.
cag, u are my hero,
I've always wanted to be a hero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7J80-suY0s
what is a sea kitten
it's something that's even gayer than you
wow stevey i thought we had something special well way to go throw it all away
make more posts at fjs
Isn't the man in the mirror like a movie or something
it's a michael jackson song you idiot
it's a bad one though, he's made a few really awesome songs but that is not one of them
this is one of my favorite songs ever by anybody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uj3zitETs4
I don't listen to Michael Jackson. I don't care about him, the kids he fucked, or his songs.Quote:
Originally Posted by steveyos
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Originally Posted by GulDucat
plain paper bitch