Software Idea for Plug drugs

wait, you were quoting what I said about doctors. I am entirely right about that actually.
Doctors can't prescribe specific doses of medication or meds for off-label uses outside of what the software allows; the software makes it a hassle to do so - it was written by a 3rd party which the company owns the clinic hired, and it was designed with money, not the health of the patients, in mind. Most of the information the software developer used as a basis when writing it up was provided by pharmaceutical companies, not medical literature.

And it's all because IT guys and software developers restricted what people can or can not do on their computers.

They need to re-envision how doctors prescribe medication and look up information -- but that would basically require the government to step in and start bossing around hospitals and clinics and kicking out pharmaceutical lobbyists.

Doctors and hospitals should never need a pharmaceutical company to lobby and promote a drug; appropriate medication should be prescribed based on medical literature, not a pharmaceutical corporation's recommendation.

it may make it a hassle to prrescribe outside doses, but it can. i've set up shit like this, so please stop,. there are leagal issues that the doctor is worried about far more than any idealistic, romantic idea of a money grab you're concerned about. you're right that the software is VERY VERY restricting and i know many doctors who refuse to use it and they're allowed to, though they have to document what they do in some other way and have someone put it into the computer.
i've dealt with this in both the united states and canada where have you implemented it?

Worst of all, the people writing bills to put any sort of plan to fix things into action are either:
A) agenda driven
B) terrible writers

I'm hoping that the medical system gets an overhaul soon, or is in the works right now, and doesn't make it worse.

The whole ebola thing might have been a blessing in disguise, because it gave the government permission to bust in the door of the hospitals and cuss out all the bad little boys and girls who've been fucking shit up

this is all great, but it ends up rhetorical and philosophical and ultimately a religious discussion about doctrine. why not go out into the real world and affect change, plugdrugs and then come back with your discoveries and tales of how you changed the world with your wikipedia reading.
you're not stupid, by any means. go for it.

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

And marks said it was indeed a development team he was managing a server for

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no, it was front office, which is secretaries sales people and marketing. the developers have admin access, because it's necessary, but they're also explicitly isolated from everything but the source control servers and on a separate NAT and a thousand other precautions that you wouldn't understand if I explained them to you


I don;'t manage "a" server, I manage 60 of them

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Originally Posted by m0nde

it's just painful watching you regurgitate the same rubbish again and again with no clue how any of it applies in the real world in a way this is laboriously long winded

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it may make it a hassle to prrescribe outside doses, but it can.

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Yes, it CAN, but no one ever does
Accurate dosing would take things like body mass index and metabolism into consideration, and medications would be available with smaller increments between the next dose up.

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i've set up shit like this, so please stop,. there are leagal issues that the doctor is worried about far more than any idealistic, romantic idea of a money grab you're concerned about.

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On the contrary, medical malpractice often results from doctors just blindly prescribing things because the software let them do it.. at least it used to, I think they've been cleaning up their act a lot lately.

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you're right that the software is VERY VERY restricting and i know many doctors who refuse to use it and they're allowed to, though they have to document what they do in some other way and have someone put it into the computer.
i've dealt with this in both the united states and canada where have you implemented it?

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I agree with you and it is a very complex issue, and I guess no one group of people should be held responsible for faults in the system, I take back what I said earlier about developers being responsible

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

Worst of all, the people writing bills to put any sort of plan to fix things into action are either:
A) agenda driven
B) terrible writers

I'm hoping that the medical system gets an overhaul soon, or is in the works right now, and doesn't make it worse.

The whole ebola thing might have been a blessing in disguise, because it gave the government permission to bust in the door of the hospitals and cuss out all the bad little boys and girls who've been fucking shit up

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yeah i was surprised that the niggers and vietnamese who were put in charge of thaking care of these people weren't hazmat certified. but that's the opposite of what you're saying. yo're on about giving people the freedom to do what they want instead of following guidelines.
if these people had followed proper safety procedures, if this shit was kicked into their skulls and checked by some slavemaster overseer, eespecially in such a high profile set of cases none of the fallout would have happened

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I don't care, I'll be bitching about everything until the system is satisfactory.
I realize this isn't exactly the best place to have my voice heard, and really my reputation here might be doing more harm for my cause than good, but I figure that you guys are the best there is at arguing, and if I can convince you guys then that means I'm ready to take my complaints to the next step up.

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yeah i was surprised that the niggers and vietnamese who were put in charge of thaking care of these people weren't hazmat certified. but that's the opposite of what you're saying. yo're on about giving people the freedom to do what they want instead of following guidelines.
if these people had followed proper safety procedures, if this shit was kicked into their skulls and checked by some slavemaster overseer, eespecially in such a high profile set of cases none of the fallout would have happened

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yeah

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yo're on about giving people the freedom to do what they want instead of following guidelines.

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No one can be entirely Apollonian or entirely Dionysian; in my opinion, any philosophy for an ideology has to be fine-tuned at certain scales and accomodate for both left and right

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

Yes, it CAN, but no one ever does
Accurate dosing would take things like body mass index and metabolism into consideration, and medications would be available with smaller increments between the next dose up.

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again bullshit. maybe in a walk-in clinic where you ahve no relationship with the patient and you're much more worried about covering your own ass, but not with the people i've dealt with. they DO take into consideration body mass and metabolism and other things that are exceptions to what the monograph prescribes. i've dealt with this myself, personally and have amny doctors in my family who talk about this kind of thing. AND i've discussed this with doctors in how they will deal with exactly this issue when i';ve set up softare for them.

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On the contrary, medical malpractice often results from doctors just blindly prescribing things because the software let them do it.. at least it used to, I think they've been cleaning up their act a lot lately.

I agree with you and it is a very complex issue, and I guess no one group of people should be held responsible for faults in the system, I take back what I said earlier about developers being responsible

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malpractice is MUCH bigger issue in the US. devs shouldn't be held responsible because they're just developiing what they're told and going by specs. pharma shouldn't be held responsible either because they have tested out their shit to whatever level they can and yes, so fucking what if money is the motive. why the hell shouldn't it be? why do anything in a capitalistic culture without that as the motivation?

what in my opinion is the probllem is that laws and guidelines are NOT followed and influence peddling is allowed to ocfur to bend or change those laws. and that money and lobbying to governing bodies and congress at a state and federal level isn't more thoroughly documented. also i believe that far worse than any of these people is the insurance industry. these fuckers need to have their whole industry reformed.

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yeah


No one can be entirely Apollonian or entirely Dionysian; in my opinion, any philosophy for an ideology has to be fine-tuned at certain scales and accomodate for both left and right

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in a situation like this you want to be as rigid and anal and by the books as possible. why would you open up your own asshole to getting stuff rammed into it when you do something wrong? why? because it was niggers and vietnamese who don't give a shit what they're doing and were not trained correctly or monitored correctly, that's why

anyway, the discussion had moved onto something else. i have thigh gaps to admire and stuff to eat, pictures to take and vape to inhale before the weekend is gone

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also i believe that far worse than any of these people is the insurance industry. these fuckers need to have their whole industry reformed.

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why though?
yeah the medical insurance system in the US is ugly, but changing it wouldn't actually be a change to insurance as it would be a change to how hospitals receive funding.
Right now, the God awful 'affordable care' act is just a sneaky way to enslave kids to debt and keep poor people over the age of 25 poor indefinitely. The older generation in their 30s, 40s, and 50s is subconsciously terrified at the prospect of being replaced by the youth, and figure that a way to maintain their position of dominance over the young is by increasing the monetary gap between people in the 18-25 range and people in the 30-50 range. It's disgusting. If I didn't know any better I'd say their ultimate goal is to get away with raping young women

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I don't care, I'll be bitching about everything until the system is satisfactory.
I realize this isn't exactly the best place to have my voice heard, and really my reputation here might be doing more harm for my cause than good, but I figure that you guys are the best there is at arguing, and if I can convince you guys then that means I'm ready to take my complaints to the next step up.

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the system is already satisfactory, you're whining because nobody asked you how it should be and it doesn't conform to all your dumb misguided little ideas

do you know why no one asked you well you see it's pretty simple it's because you don't know shit

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Originally Posted by maks

the system is already satisfactory, you're whining because nobody asked you how it should be and it doesn't conform to all your dumb misguided little ideas

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uh no it isn't, i've got a laundry list here for you...
1. Scam Colleges
2. We're STILL having bombing campaigns on foreign countries and killing countless civilians
3. Tech companies becoming corrupt
4. we're swimming in a sea of industrial chemicals
5. Medical malpractice and corrupt medical system
6. corrupt politicians
7. corrupt police (not really around here, but in the south it appears to be apeshit)

i can keep going

1. holy shit the world has problems?
2. thank god you told me, I never would have known otherwise
3. sadly, you're not in a position to do anything about it
4. and you never will be
5. and, considering the bang-up job you do managing your own life
6. maybe you're not the most qualified person to tell other people how to live theirs
7. so maybe, just maybe, you should shut the fuck up
8. and stop pretending you know everything
9. when it's obvious to anyone who's paying attention
10. that you don't know shit

I can keep going

1. hey, now
2. this is crazy
3. but here's some numbers
4. so call me maybe

plyuggy

1. Nobody hires me cus im deaf.
2. I can make money.
3. I'm motivated.
4. I can keep going

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1. holy shit the world has problems?

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Scam colleges would be an easy fix. The ones that are totally defunct probably need to just be discontinued and have a refund issued to the students if they wish or they can finish up their degree if they're close. The ones that are only slightly straying off the path of a legitimate education, they just need the quality of the education to improve by improving the reference material being used.
If you put me in front of a room full of students, I guarantee you I can get them to see why the subject is interesting and want to learn it; not only that, but I bet I could get them so interested that they all start talking about it trying to put it together themselves.

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2. thank god you told me, I never would have known otherwise

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If there's one thing on the planet a person should show humility when talking about, it's probably all the unnecessary pointless wars being fought. People just need to come together in peace; no one wants to fight anymore. I think for quite some time Europe, Russia, and Eastern Asia were all waiting for the USA to sort of 'snap out of it' and decide instead to go around the world helping people and providing technology to help prevent disease and solve hunger. But I hope it's not too late and the rest of the world hasn't lost hope in us yet.

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3. sadly, you're not in a position to do anything about it

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I'm a good writer. I know how to go back to basics when writing an article on something. More than that though, I am actually willing to go back to the basics in order to make a good article. This entails persistently checking to make sure references and citations are valid, and also to provide multiple different references and citations for each topic. This was actually stuff they were supposed to be teaching you as a freshman or a sophomore in high school; I think you received it but apparently not many other people did.

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4. and you never will be

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don't know what you're implying here

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5. and, considering the bang-up job you do managing your own life

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Time and time again I go great distances to do the right thing, work hard, and show people I am capable of doing anything as long as I know it is the right thing to do. Unfortunately, me actually doing a good job at something is taken by many as even worse than me not doing the job at all. Something about my face, people expect something different from me or something; they don't like seeing a fat dog bark.

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6. maybe you're not the most qualified person to tell other people how to live theirs

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If there's one benefit that recklessness has, it's truly learning your limits, and truly knowing what is dangerous and what isn't. People claiming that something is safe and assuring people not to worry about it when they don't truly know (I'm thinking of politicians who allow for suspected toxic chemicals to be used in the making of a variety of consumer products) rings quite a few alarm bells in my mind. I keep looking for chemists, physicists, and medical engineers and researchers who can give me solid answers for my questions, but all I keep finding is archetypal "book keepers".

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7. so maybe, just maybe, you should shut the fuck up
8. and stop pretending you know everything
9. when it's obvious to anyone who's paying attention
10. that you don't know shit

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The route of concern I am taking (posting here to get brutally honest opinions) is pretty much the most optimized route I could take to have such concerns addressed. However, you guys have been slacking lately; you're finding it harder and harder to rub it in my face why I'm wrong..
Either I'm getting smarter or the internet is making everyone dumber; I haven't figured it out yet. It might be a little bit of both in certain regards.

You hack programs? That's cool, I hack sociology

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ahahahahahahahahaaaaa! that is a keeper oh my god, yes you fucking moron

thanks, more good ones coming this way, stay tuned for more Posts by Plug Drugs, the rambling edition

that one will definitely enter the collective gay nigger dick consciousness nowhere near as brilliant as elezzzark's or dp's comments but it's pretty good. keep going, keep going

wait am I being insulted at all? I've got a really good one in mind if so

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yeah i was surprised that the niggers and vietnamese

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It's not an issue of race. If you want to hear my opinion which is slightly closer to the truth, it seems like minorities in hospitals are often given the jobs that people usually do not want to do.
I'm almost sick of talking poorly of hospitals at this point and just don't even want to bother doing it anymore, but one thing I personally have noticed is that high risk high stress low pay jobs are often given to minorities. I am not sure if this was semi-intentional, subconscious, or if they merely wound up with the job because they weren't one of the people who asked not to do it.

Visiting my grandfather in hospice, the night nurse there barely spoke English. I guess no one wants to work nights in hospice, but they do need to have someone there at night, so basically whoever applies for that job gets it.

Again, it's not an issue of race at all. For me, the issue was the language barrier. Due to a technicality, no one was giving my grandfather pain meds in hospice before we showed up.. Literally nothing. No. Pain. Medication. We almost had to start arguing with the night nurse to get him put on pain meds. I don't know what it was; at the time I thought maybe she had been told explicitly by someone not to give out pain medication willy nilly or she'll get fired, so she took this very seriously and simply would not give pain meds out at all.

Here is the part that seriously bothers me though. He couldn't have even asked for pain meds if he wanted to. He had just had an unsuccessful surgery to remove throat cancer which ended disasterously; the cancer had sort of softened/weakened and ate away at the tissue between the esophagus and the trachea, so when they tried to remove the tumor, they ripped right through into his trachea.. He couldn't talk obviously, and hence could not ask for pain medication.

The doctor had assured my aunt, however, that they would make sure he was pain free in hospice on plenty of pain meds until he passed. When we showed up the night of the next day though, of course, no one was giving him any pain medication whatsoever.

The only thing even remotely resembling an excuse that I can think of is that the doctor determined that narcotics could end up prolonging his suffering; if the brain is in a state of euphoria, the individual may cling to life even when their body would naturally otherwise opt to accept death, as the body and brain usually recognize when an injury is beyond repair, but opiates could theoretically prevent the brain from recognizing the traumatic state of the body.
But I don't think that was the case, because after we PUSHED to get him pain medication, it immediately helped. He was able to relax and go to sleep, and I literally heard a sigh of relief of his pain dissipating once the medication kicked in. He died peacefully in his sleep a few hours later.

If we hadn't been there to make sure he got humane treatment, his last hours would have been completely miserable
I am just glad we were able to be there for him, and glad that we were able to help him out by being there

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That is easily the gayest thing I've ever heard. for the record you don't, you just whine about it a lot.

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That is easily the gayest thing I've ever heard. for the record you don't, you just whine about it a lot.

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Neuropsychology and cognitive psychology as it pertains to neuroscience, up until recently, had been a large amount of guesswork and relied heavily on reported effects from patients & drug users as well as old medical literature. Functional MRIs were a lot of help, but it was still largely a puzzle (and still largely is) prior to breakthroughs in the past several years.

I was largely obsessed with studying pharmacology as a teenager, and then piecing together how various drugs affected my cognition.
I got fairly good at this, and being prescribed stimulants for ADHD at 17, I was able to experience what they refer to in psychology as 'metacognition' - basically, being able to cognitively perceive the processes occurring structurally and neurocognitively in the brain as they are happening.
I would say I am fairly adept at understanding psychology arising from activity at the synaptic scale.
One mistake I then made was, instead of pursuing further understanding of modern neuroscience, I decided to re-examine psychology from its modern roots: namely Nietzsche and Jung (I actually only read a small amount of Freud's work, as it seemed too ego-maniacal and assuming).

Instead of helping re-enforce my understanding of modern neuropsychology, it merely sucked me in to the same labyrinth that other psychologists from the early 20th century had been sucked in to -- and without conclusions supported by modern equipment, I found myself trying to piece together the mechanics of the human psyche entirely from the bottom up. This is largely impossible to do. What will end up happening is, it will lead to conclusions but ones which are only communicable largely through artistic prose, and is almost indistinguishable from philosophy.

When a person with metacognition whole-heartedly commits to journeying in to the 'unconscious mind' in an attempt to map it, they usually find it to turn into a labyrinth of thoughts that won't piece together; it can result in a fairly moderate neuroses (as it has for me on occasions).

But I have made it out, time and time again, and have found that the contents of the unconscious mind can vary completely depending on the outlook one has while approaching it. Although I did not gain the bottom-up foundation for psychology integrated with neurology, I did verify and enhance my understanding of sociology, and quite a bit so.

Sociology is not a pragmatic science, nor does an epistemology exist for it that is able to represent it accurately. Sociology is highly stochastic - as well as highly impartial. It is never entirely consistent in its structure, because it changes.
A persons behavior in a group and thoughts on behavior in a group can fluctuate depending on what is expected of them on a subconscious level; by this mechanism, false sociology can become true sociology merely from people believing it to be true sociology - even though there is no such thing as 'true sociology'.
Human behavior is only deterministic in one aspect: we all generally share a will to live which includes the drive for food, water, shelter, sex, etc..
Sociological determinism beyond that doesn't exist, and what appears to be determinism is often times human consideration for other humans; which, when it comes to advertising, can result in people trying something simply because someone recommended them to try it -- and this is why advertising will always work to an extent. The power of suggestion will always work with a percentage of success; because this is percentage-based, advertising will always result in an exponential promotion of a product or service; this is why advertising has a permanent presence in our modern culture. But this does not guarantee it to be cost-effective, which is what many international and large national corporations have realized over the years. Brands like coca cola, for example, attempt to remain cryptic with their public image, to suggest a seat for it in the subconscious mind as being somehow permanently established in society and irreplaceable. I'm a fan of Coca-Cola actually, not to say anything good or bad about them, but merely using their approach to advertising as an example of modern sociology which has practical application.

Although prevalence of sociological tendencies can not be predicted with certainty (and in some cases, can hardly be predicted at all), the existence of the tendencies themselves can be calculated, in that we can derive the variables involved from the Will to Live -- although we can not give a value for these variables without application.

From the variables however, using nothing but extended algebra and very basic calculus, we can give approximate values for the variables in a group of people based on non-specific data like age and sex of the group members. Essentially, by considering the ratios of the variables as they relate to each other algebraically, we can deduce the presence of more variables, thereby including/discluding them, and then by fitting the ratios together as percentages in the group, we can approximate a range for each of those percentages, and thereby conclude with almost complete certainty whether certain factors are present in any particular member of the group. What are these variables? Any and all dispositions of members in a group pertaining to the will to live. This might include the desire for sex, and the manner in which that desire manifests - as there are finite sub-types of particular drive or perspective, we can use extended algebra to determine which sub-type is occurring in whom, and with a high degree of certainty know the trigger for that subtype.

Basically what I'm saying is that using basic math and algebra, you don't even need to be able to read minds to predict the behavior of specific individuals in a group with a high level of accuracy -- with the stochastic nature of sociology not only not preventing such a feat, but ensuring its occurrence.

In small groups, video advertisements can be used to subconsciously lure an individual into a particular mode of thought and emotional responsiveness, then induce feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety, by causing them to revert their sense of social commitment to the initial mode of thought. This is particularly effective in younger small groups of 2-4 where there is a higher number of males than females; it can be used to change public opinion, especially on products, for that age group.