When Trump dies, it makes America great again!

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Originally Posted by clay

people who paid attention or got arrested and fucked over by the government knew. they also told everyone. one more thing a lot of people dont actually know. back when those overnight photo development booths existed, i guess before the mid 90s, they used to have a person pick all of the photos up, take them to an airport, and they would fly them to local development centers a state or two away. a lot of these places kept copies of the photos for the government. everyones personal photos were stored somewhere for government review

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where's the proof every 4th amendment lawyer in the country would be fighting to make his career on that case

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Originally Posted by Cag.

snowden didnt give up his life or freedom, he fled like a puasy

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would you want to live in russia I wuldn't

he also fled to a country that is arguably one of the worst on the planet for the things he "exposed"

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Originally Posted by clay

and theyre still doing it, so whats the difference

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With some exceptions, they are doing for Patriot Act to prevent future terrorist attacks.

hr could be rotting in a prison, but im sure hes kneedeep in russian pussy. such a sacrifice

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Originally Posted by maks

where's the proof every 4th amendment lawyer in the country would be fighting to make his career on that case

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the leaks proved theyre still doing this stuff, did lawyers win court cases?

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Originally Posted by clay

he also fled to a country that is arguably one of the worst on the planet for the things he "exposed"

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Snowden knows a country would never work with US governement, if he goes to Mexico, he can be captured for being an idiot.

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Originally Posted by clay

the leaks proved theyre still doing this stuff, did lawyers win court cases?

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There a difference between military court and civilan court.

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Originally Posted by clay

the leaks proved theyre still doing this stuff, did lawyers win court cases?

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post the proof they could have won with, it's easy for you to say this shit in a post snowden world

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Originally Posted by juji

There a difference between military court and civilan court.

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here comes the completely irrelevant but kind of connected fact so that elezark can feel involved

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Originally Posted by clay

he also fled to a country that is arguably one of the worst on the planet for the things he "exposed"

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he fled to a country that wouldn't extradite him

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Originally Posted by maks

post the proof they could have won with, it's easy for you to say this shit in a post snowden world

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what im saying is that snowden released actual government documents that prove they were violating the 4th amendment, and no one won a lawsuit against the government. so what difference would it make

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Originally Posted by maks

he fled to a country that wouldn't extradite him

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he flew to china, who 100% would extradite him. but he gave them all the documents he stole so that they would let him go

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Originally Posted by clay

what im saying is that snowden released actual government documents that prove they were violating the 4th amendment, and no one won a lawsuit against the government. so what difference would it make

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9/11 changed everything

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Originally Posted by clay

he flew to china, who 100% would extradite him. but he gave them all the documents he stole so that they would let him go

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I'd do the same thing wouldn't you

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here comes the completely irrelevant but kind of connected fact so that elezark can feel involved

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Snowden enlisted as special forces unit then he accepted an offer from CIA, there no way to win the case because no one can win with "disobeying the order" to shut the fuck up.

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Originally Posted by maks

9/11 changed everything

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i was in the situation where a government official showed me 2 years of my entire internet doings before 9/11. theyve been doing this for generations. used to be with letters and telegrams, then phone calls and mail, then email, now cell phones and internet

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Originally Posted by juji

Snowden enlisted as special forces unit then he accepted an offer from CIA, there no way to win the case because no one can win with "disobeying the order" to shut the fuck up.

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a united states citizen can sue the government in federal court. military court has nothing to do with any of this, go away

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i was in the situation where a government official showed me 2 years of my entire internet doings before 9/11. theyve been doing this for generations. used to be with letters and telegrams, then phone calls and mail, then email, now cell phones and internet

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where is the proof of any of this before snowden

also, if you're in the CIA then you are not in the military. so i looked at the wikipedia.

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Snowden enlisted in the United States Army Reserve on May 7, 2004 and became a Special Forces candidate through its 18X enlistment option.[33] He did not complete the training.[6] After breaking both legs in a training accident,[34] he was discharged on September 28, 2004.[35]

Snowden was then employed for less than a year in 2005 as a security guard

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you're a dipshit

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where is the proof of any of this before snowden

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proof of specifically what part, i said a lot of things

any of it would be a good start

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Originally Posted by clay

a united states citizen can sue the government in federal court. military court has nothing to do with any of this, go away

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There a jurisdiction over civilan employees of the military forces in court-martial. Snowden can go to jail for violating the Espionage Act. Anyway, this is my thread, you're one who should go away.

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Originally Posted by maks

any of it would be a good start

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in terms of the photo thing, my dad was one of the pilots.

he also did some work for these years ago:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MINARET

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_SHAMROCK

this massive surveillance program was well known. they even use a dome in a town near me that has a 24/7 civilian clothed military guard around it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

lets just overthjrow this shit right now it's enough already fuck the government

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Originally Posted by juji

There a jurisdiction over civilan employees of the military forces in court-martial. Snowden can go to jail for violating the Espionage Act. Anyway, this is my thread, you're one who should go away.

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snowden can go to jail for like violations of 100 federal statutes. dude will never come back or it will literally be lifetime in prison for him.

im p. sure even like unauthorized use of a govt computer or network is a federal crime.

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snowden can go to jail for like violations of 100 federal statutes. dude will never come back or it will literally be lifetime in prison for him.

im p. sure even like unauthorized use of a govt computer or network is a federal crime.

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That's why his decision to flee away to Russia was correct. Nobody should trust the governement since the constitution cannot guarantee to protect Snowden.

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Originally Posted by juji

That's why his decision to flee away to Russia was correct. Nobody should trust the governement since the constitution cannot guarantee to protect Snowden.

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he committed a crime. if you want it to not be a crime, talk to congress. aside from all of that, if he werent a moron, he wouldve gone directly to cuba. theyve been letting a murderer live there since the 70s and wont give her back

snowden 2020

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Originally Posted by clay

he committed a crime. if you want it to not be a crime, talk to congress. aside from all of that, if he werent a moron, he wouldve gone directly to cuba. theyve been letting a murderer live there since the 70s and wont give her back

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snowden would rot without reliable internet access lol cuba would not be good for him