who unbanned the lizards this is an outrage

i dont think anyone understands how mutually reliant china and the US are upon each other

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Originally Posted by Obnoxious Bitch

I don't think you understand how egos and ambition makes that a moot issue.

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do i need to quote Austin Powers again? "You like an idiot wanted to take over the world, but there is no world anymore, there is only corporations"

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Originally Posted by Obnoxious Bitch

Why not? It forced Ecuador to hand Julian Assange over the the United states via England and Sweden so China is definitely too afraid of that and wants no part of it.

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I was laughing because it's true

it's exactly what we would and should do if the hypothetical situation he was saying it about was to happen

and it's got nothing to do with Julian Assache

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

i dont think anyone understands how mutually reliant china and the US are upon each other

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the US is now in a position where it relies on a lot of places fiancially

China would live quite well without America, America would fuck itself if it tried that on china

i dont think U understand how this threead is fucking retarded and you are all retards.

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Originally Posted by NortyNippy

I was laughing because it's true

it's exactly what we would and should do if the hypothetical situation he was saying it about was to happen

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I was laughing because it's ridiculous, and tim was being serious.
if one of your major allies gets invaded, would you help them or just trade embargo their invader? Our way of life would be at risk. Have you seen some of the shit the chinese do? They shit in diapers on trains, and eat scorpions and millipedes as a regular snack. Would you like a country with that kind of lifestyle to be taking over your country and converting it?

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

i dont think anyone understands how mutually reliant china and the US are upon each other

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the US is now in a position where it relies on a lot of places fiancially

China would live quite well without America, America would fuck itself if it tried that on china the US owes way too much money

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Originally Posted by NortyNippy

the US is now in a position where it relies on a lot of places fiancially

China would live quite well without America, America would fuck itself if it tried that on china

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China has too many people and practically begs other countries for jobs because there aren't enough jobs in their country by itself to go around. It's all due to their cultural morals and traditions that go back to the middle ages which are completely out of whack -- they try to have as many kids as possible because its been ingrained in their family morals that kids are going to be needed to go off and fight wars, and the country needs as many kids as possible (before not even a century ago, China had been in perpetual civil war for thousands of years). They value individualism so little that it has a negative impact on the population as a whole.

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

I was laughing because it's ridiculous, and tim was being serious.
if one of your major allies gets invaded, would you help them or just trade embargo their invader? Our way of life would be at risk. Have you seen some of the shit the chinese do? They shit in diapers on trains, and eat scorpions and millipedes as a regular snack. Would you like a country with that kind of lifestyle to be taking over your country and converting it?

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If I was China and you were Australia I'd invade you just to make you shut up because you're stupid

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Originally Posted by NortyNippy

the US is now in a position where it relies on a lot of places fiancially

China would live quite well without America, America would fuck itself if it tried that on china

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you are really dumb

america (europe, australia, etc.) without china is a land without cheap bullshit

china without america is a land without the means to feed and power itself

look at a list of the exports/imports, all we import from china is cheap crap e.g. furniture, footwear, apparel, toys, electronics; they import from the US oils, seeds, power generation equipment, vehicles, aircraft, chemicals, plastics, paper, etc. basically all of the necessary tools to build infrastructure and feed people.

which list do you think is more vital to a nation

the US before trading with China was a global superpower
China before trading with the US was a crippled husk that had been exploited by Europe, Japan, etc. for decades

I am sorry but this should be obvious. u can be a hater all you want, China is in no position to be self reliant if they stopped trading with the US tomorrow. The US economy would get fucked up from such a sudden occurrence and there would be an economic crisis but it would work itself out and the markets would stabilize and we'd start making out own consumer goods once again like we used to and consumer goods would become expensive but the quality would probably increase and hopefully the ideal of the disposable economy would die off since things would be too expensive to continue that way. China would lose its biggest export partner by far (their exports ot the US are much higher than US exports to China) and the economic situation there would be far worse and longer lasting.

btw australia has a higher external national debt as % of GDP than the US

just sayin ;)

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Originally Posted by Camoron

you are really dumb

america (europe, australia, etc.) without china is a land without cheap bullshit

china without america is a land without the means to feed and power itself

look at a list of the exports/imports, all we import from china is cheap crap e.g. furniture, footwear, apparel, toys, electronics; they import from the US oils, seeds, power generation equipment, vehicles, aircraft, chemicals, plastics, paper, etc. basically all of the necessary tools to build infrastructure and feed people.

which list do you think is more vital to a nation

the US before trading with China was a global superpower
China before trading with the US was a crippled husk that had been exploited by Europe, Japan, etc. for decades

I am sorry but this should be obvious. u can be a hater all you want, China is in no position to be self reliant if they stopped trading with the US tomorrow. The US economy would get fucked up from such a sudden occurrence and there would be an economic crisis but it would work itself out and the markets would stabilize and we'd start making out own consumer goods once again like we used to and consumer goods would become expensive but the quality would probably increase and hopefully the ideal of the disposable economy would die off since things would be too expensive to continue that way. China would lose its biggest export partner by far (their exports ot the US are much higher than US exports to China) and the economic situation there would be far worse and longer lasting.

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um no

america owes way too much fucking money

other nations do not owe that much

you would fuck yourselves

brilliant argument and well backed by facts

it's still the truth and you know it

your foolish national pride is lying out of its ass to you

perhaps u do not understand, YES the US has the highest debt in terms of DOLLARS in teh world, but it also has the highest GDP

in terms of GDP that external debt is roughly 100% of the GDP

according to a CNBC article from earlier this year referencing worldbank statistics, 19 other nations had higher external debt as % of GDP, 18 of them in Europe and also Australia which was like 120% or something. UK was 2nd with 450% and Ireland was 1st with over 1200%

you don't understand that more money is available for "us" to borrow than for "you"

WOW the thing about debt is, if we stopped trading with China obviously theres something BIG AND BAD going on in the world right? obviously we would cancel our debt to them you fucking idiot. yes this would cause a financial crisis and rampant inflation but it is doable in the case of such an EXTREME situation (as this would obviously be). see: Russian financial crisis of 1998 in which Russia defaulted on its debt and has since pretty much recovered economically

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Originally Posted by NortyNippy

you don't understand that more money is available for "us" to borrow than for "you"

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I don't understand that because it makes no fucking sense

why would nations be more willing to lend to Australia when Australia is already in a deeper debt hole than the US is? that makes no fucking sense

i'm glad we have people like Camoron who post here who know what they're talking about

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Originally Posted by Camoron

WOW the thing about debt is, if we stopped trading with China obviously theres something BIG AND BAD going on in the world right? obviously we would cancel our debt to them you fucking idiot. yes this would cause a financial crisis and rampant inflation but it is doable in the case of such an EXTREME situation (as this would obviously be). see: Russian financial crisis of 1998 in which Russia defaulted on its debt and has since pretty much recovered economically

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that would be in the situation where China declares war on you

if that's a comfort to you

I'm not sure Australia and all your "allies" would want to jump in with you on that one

so moot hypothetical point

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Originally Posted by Cody

If we quit trding with china someone would have to make all the shit we get from them, which would create jobs, true those items would cost more but there would be more american dollars staying in america and more tax revenue would be generated lowering our debt. Is that theory sound?

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Yes but the rest of the world would still be trading with each other

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Originally Posted by Cody

shhh lizard, i'm talking to the guy who knows more than i do about economics, not hipster tom petty.

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everyone knows more about everything than you

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Originally Posted by NortyNippy

that would be in the situation where China declares war on you

if that's a comfort to you

I'm not sure Australia and all your "allies" would want to jump in with you on that one

so moot hypothetical point

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i would relish a war with an actual country

hey nortynippy how many American military bases are there on the Asian side of the Pacific? And how many Chinese bases are there on the American side of the Pacific? :smug:

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Originally Posted by Cody

If we quit trding with china someone would have to make all the shit we get from them, which would create jobs, true those items would cost more but there would be more american dollars staying in america and more tax revenue would be generated lowering our debt. Is that theory sound?

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yes

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Originally Posted by NortyNippy

Yes but the rest of the world would still be trading with each other

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oh please, do you really think if ther'es some kind of WAR between China and the US that everyone else would be neutral? get real

what would happen:
The US sends 500000 soldiers
UK sends 10000
Canada sends 1000
Australia sends 200
everyone else "the coalition of the willing" sends 1

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Originally Posted by Camoron

i would relish a war with an actual country

hey nortynippy how many American military bases are there on the Asian side of the Pacific? And how many Chinese bases are there on the American side of the Pacific? :smug:

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I think you have no true idea

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Originally Posted by Obnoxious Bitch

What did I tell you about the we thing Lisa?

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that it's a term WE use to identify OURSELVES when we are talking about STUFF as it relates to a group with which WE identify OURSELVES

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Originally Posted by Cody

obviously not you, so your argument is invalid, because you're flat out dumb as a sack of hammers.

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I'm smarter than you.

How much did you bash your ex and why?

Why were you ever in the KKK?

Are any of those things true about your retard down syndrome ass?

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I think you have no true idea

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are we going conspiracy nut now? I google "Chinese military bases in the Americas" and find links to godlikeproductions and truther sites about how China was responsible for 9/11

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Originally Posted by Obnoxious Bitch

Like you and the rest of the American members of this site have any influence over US policy.

What did I tell you about the we thing Lisa?

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I can't remember

tell me again

Cameron think he can declare WW3 and he has it all figured out

what a fucking retard

as if anyone with political power would listen to that rubbish

goddan chinese muslim terrorsits

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Originally Posted by Camoron

are we going conspiracy nut now? I google "Chinese military bases in the Americas" and find links to godlikeproductions and truther sites about how China was responsible for 9/11

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you think you actually have an actual real clue?

You get more stupid by the minute

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Originally Posted by NortyNippy

Cameron think he can declare WW3 and he has it all figured out

what a fucking retard

as if anyone with political power would listen to that rubbish

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yup thats exactly what I said, I want to declare war on China MWAHAHHAHAA YOU DONT MESS WITH DER FLAMERICALERHCAT

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Originally Posted by Camoron

yup thats exactly what I said, I want to declare war on China MWAHAHHAHAA YOU DONT MESS WITH DER FLAMERICALERHCAT

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doofus

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Originally Posted by NortyNippy

you think you actually have an actual real clue?

You get more stupid by the minute

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i dont know you tell me
do you believe chinese did 9/11
do you believe they have secret udnerground bases they tunneled through the Earth from China just under our feet

i dont

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Originally Posted by Obnoxious Bitch

Like you and the rest of the American members of this site have any influence over US policy.

What did I tell you about the we thing Lisa?

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semantics, do you really think he was implying joint ownership of the united states or something? He was using 'we' for the sake of simplicity in the flow of wording

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Originally Posted by Camoron

i dont know you tell me
do you believe chinese did 9/11
do you believe they have secret udnerground bases they tunneled through the Earth from China just under our feet

i dont

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um no I don't think any of that

are you retarded?