Quote Originally Posted by m0nde View Post
yup, post irrelevant characterizations. it shows you've run out of valid arguments.
good ramen-like strategy, bRO
yep, you're right, trolling you is totally not the whole reason I brought this up again out of the blue. That's some sound logic.

Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
well if he's paying taxes for them why not? I mean hell I would too even if I was against them just because I would be entitled to them as long as they're there.
Pretty much. I'm not a fan of social security but of course I'd collect on it, I've been paying into the fucking thing practically my whole life. Also I'd have no problem with it if it was voluntary, my gripe isn't with government programs but with a bunch of asswipes in washington making my decisions for me.