Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
i'll admit i'm a personal fanboy of the jews, but they are not immune to mistakes just like every other group of people on the planet. We actively favor them in political dilemmas for no real reason, which is wrong
white guilt over the holocaust mainly



Quote Originally Posted by blumpkin blownuts View Post
that's often the case in iraq because that was a fuck-up from the beginning... dumbya made that decision to go in, and it's not entirely his fault as he was manipulated by Douglas Feith and John Yoo. but once we deposed saddam we had to stay until the job is finished -- in for a penny, in for a pound
Pretty sure it's the case in any country that we invade and occupy...

afghanistan is legitimate war on terror. it was legitimate war, and in war innocent lives will be lost, especially when the enemy uses their own people as human shields. there's also isolated incidents where our guys have intentionally murdered friendlies - most of the time the perps were contractors, and i know by personal experience that the vetting for defense contractors is a fucking joke.
I understand all that, what I don't understand is how these guys can delude themselves into believing there's honor in that. It's not like the US was invaded and are striking back, we went in because we were pissed and because we could, we've been taking out our national anger on these people for 11 years now.