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    Quote Originally Posted by skrizach View Post
    Well the win is probably in the fact that the federal government has a markedly smaller presence than state, county, and local law enforcement agents.
    I assumed there will be many fewer drug busts against personal users and personnel, funds, and time will be able to be more properly managed to focus on large scale, illegal operations, such as foreign cartels.


    Fact is the more they infringe on state's rights the more the states will fight back, and eventually the federal government is going to lose. Decriminalization is going to sweep the country in the next few years, I'm betting by 2016 there will be no less than 10 other states following CO and WA's lead
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    Im betting that within the next 4 years, the fucking lazy cunt potheads are going to forget to vote and it will be re criminalized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    The only reason they can ban drugs federally is because they come up with creative ways to interpret (read: destroy the spirit of) the commerce clause
    there is no spirit of the constitution or of any of the amendments to it. it is an intentionally vague, living document that has been challenged and interpreted differently for as long as its been in use. the founding fathers were not this idealistic group of guys that agreed on everything and they certainly never agreed on what the balance of power and autonomy between the federal government and the individual states should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcent View Post
    jesus christ guy, you actually are retarded arent you?


    for real....... the whole thing is that they decriminalized personal use......... and at LEAST use proper grammar if you are trying to sound like a fucking intellectual drug addict...... right now you just come off as a fucking shaved monkey mashing a keyboard.
    they didnt decriminalize it they legalized it completely
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    there is no spirit of the constitution or of any of the amendments to it. it is a living document that has been challenged and interpreted differently for as long as its been in use. the founding fathers were not this idealistic group of guys that agreed on everything and they certainly never agreed on what the balance of power and autonomy between the federal government and the individual states should be.
    What a crock of shit. The constitution is a living document in that it can be amended. However, words mean stuff, you can't just reinterpret them to mean what you want them to mean. If the framers of the constitution had intended to give the federal government the power to ban drugs they would not have phrased it "Congress shall have Power to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes". "Interpretation" is just a dishonest and immoral shortcut around the amendment process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    What a crock of shit. The constitution is a living document in that it can be amended. However, words mean stuff, you can't just reinterpret them to mean what you want them to mean. If the framers of the constitution had intended to give the federal government the power to ban drugs they would not have phrased it "Congress shall have Power to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes". "Interpretation" is just a dishonest and immoral shortcut around the amendment process.
    tell that to george washington and alexander hamilton. implied powers, general welfare clause, necessary and proper clause, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    tell that to george washington and alexander hamilton. implied powers, general welfare clause, necessary and proper clause, etc.
    unfortunately they're dead so I'll have to stick to calling Obama a stupid cocksucker on the internet
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    maybe you can tell John Adams who helped write the constitution that he interpreted it wrong when he signed into law the alien and sedition acts (which Thomas Jefferson repealed, but not before using it to prosecute some of his own critics lmao)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    maybe you can tell John Adams who helped write the constitution that he interpreted it wrong when he signed into law the alien and sedition acts (which Thomas Jefferson repealed, but not before using it to prosecute some of his own critics lmao)
    There was nothing unconstitutional about the alien act, as for the sedition act that violated the fuck out of the first amendment and started the precedent of our leaders ignoring the law whenever it's convenient for them. just because it's been going on forever doesn't make it right, and it's our job to try and prevent it.
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    yes the sedition act is the specific one I meant, but I was referring to it as the Alien and Sedition Acts because that is what the 4 bills passed at the same time are collectively known as
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    oh jesus cam. stfu. i know you voted for that nigger. fuck all you black commie bastards.
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