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12-01-2012
every machine with driven elements has a prime mover. It is folly to attempt conception of infinity from even an ideal flywheel, by default.
What came before the prime mover was the machine that built it, and the mind that deigned it.
So it is then possible to conceive of negative infinity, working further backwards.Last edited by blumpkin blownuts; 12-01-2012 at 09:30 PM.
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xoxoking steveyos12-01-2012
no the necessity of your mind to posit a prime mover results from your mind's failure to concieve of infinity and eternity which if you continue to "up" questions in philosophy you must ultimately reach and be unable to answer
if at any stage you liken the universe to a man made machine or need to posit a prime mover or god in your conceptions then you have failed in "upping" your philosophical questions
you see infinity falls in on itself when we try to concieve of it and so many who cannot properly concieve of infinity must posit a prime mover... however this is only a backstep and backpeddle in your philosophy because it still begs the question of what is the "prime mover" ... because if nothing moved the prime mover and nothing was before the prime mover then the prime mover is infinate and so therefore cannot even be a prime mover
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12-01-2012
Define "prime mover", before I give you my definition. You're getting lost in a detail or trying to say I'm claiming something I never did. If we find this bottle-neck is due to your poor reading comprehension, then this game ends IMMEDIATELY.
if at any stage you liken the universe to a man made machine or need to posit a prime mover or god in your conceptions then you have failed in "upping" your philosophical questions
In a physical machine, the prime mover is moderated by the input Force (aka the excitation) to the initial driving element, e.g. a water wheel, a lightning bolt, an automotive starter assy. the prime mover is then the piece that transfers, at a predictable level, Force to all attached components of the machine.
God is not a prime mover. God is related via it's own extension, Mind, to the input phase of an existential machine, or even a modern machine.
Think: UserInput:Mind::EngineControls:ForceLast edited by blumpkin blownuts; 12-01-2012 at 09:54 PM.
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xoxoking steveyos12-01-2012
Well a "prime mover" is a concept/THEORY in physics.... everything that is is in motion in the universe it in motion from being moved by another object... some theorists need to posit a "prime mover" as the idea that this movement is infinite is too much for their earthly bound physist mind to conceieve of
it's all about potential and kinetic energy and shit however a "prime mover" really doesn't solve this conundrum in physics, is a mere theory and cannot be proven... it is also not even necessary to many a mind to have to posit for movement in the universe
and so some in philosophy have adopted the THEORY of a prime mover as "proof" of a god... it does not prove a god and it does not even necessarily existLast edited by xoxo; 12-01-2012 at 10:00 PM.
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