How come Italy used to be the center of the civilized world,

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but I suppose Doli can't be blamed; the bullshit pumped out of the Vatican is probably pretty convincing.. I mean, it has to be

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I only cite Britain because it seems to be the most discussed in literature, and the least confusing - therefore we can use it as a focal point for our discussion on the Western Empire's transition to Feudalism

Unfortunately it also seems to be the province we know the least about, as writings from that time period and place of the world are extremely rare; but this just makes it good for theorizing and arguing about

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the kingdoms of england were mostly made up of invading danes, saxons, angles, jutes, etc. these people had never ever ever been part of the roman empire and brought with them the systems established by the ppl in their homeland - where do you think the term "danelaw" comes from

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200 years later the muslims came and "wanted them out" but the people of the provinces in the east were far, far more roman than the people in Gaul or Iberia or Britain

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I only cite Britain because it seems to be the most discussed in literature, and the least confusing - therefore we can use it as a focal point for our discussion on the Western Empire's transition to Feudalism

Unfortunately it also seems to be the province we know the least about, as writings from that time period and place of the world are extremely rare; but this just makes it good for theorizing and arguing about

no we can't, the feudalism that ultimately developed in england was very different from the feudalism that developed on the continent and you dont get to make these weird ass assertions

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no we can't, the feudalism that ultimately developed in england was very different from the feudalism that developed on the continent and you dont get to make these weird ass assertions

why not you've just been pulling the argument about barbarians being the founders of the Feudal age out of your ass with no references; you must be thinking "uhh yeah it makes sense in my head so it must be true".
Just because Britons were Anglos or Saxons by blood does not mean that the Barbarian tribes were the ones who invented the Feudal system.

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why not you've just been pulling the argument about barbarians being the founders of the Feudal age out of your ass with no references; you must be thinking "uhh yeah it makes sense in my head so it must be true".
Just because Britons were Anglos or Saxons by blood does not mean that the Barbarian tribes were the ones who invented the Feudal system.

The term "fee" of "fief" which is the basic root of the word "feudal" derived from an ancient Gothic source faihu signifying simply "property" which in its most basic sense was "cattle".[2] This can be compared to the very ancient classical Latin word pecunia, which means both cattle and money. Many primitive societies in existence today demonstrate the ancient use of cattle as financial currency, for example the Masai of Kenya, who still pay dowries in this form. Because feudalism was in its origin a Teutonic or Gothic system from northern Europe untouched by Roman civilization, it did not exist in ancient Rome, where the nearest equivalent was clientelism. No classical Latin word therefore exists to signify it, and a new Low-Latin word feodum was invented by mediaeval European scribes to use in their Latinised charters and other writings.[3][4]

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The term "fee" of "fief" which is the basic root of the word "feudal" derived from an ancient Gothic source faihu signifying simply "property" which in its most basic sense was "cattle".[2] This can be compared to the very ancient classical Latin word pecunia, which means both cattle and money. Many primitive societies in existence today demonstrate the ancient use of cattle as financial currency, for example the Masai of Kenya, who still pay dowries in this form. Because feudalism was in its origin a Teutonic or Gothic system from northern Europe untouched by Roman civilization, it did not exist in ancient Rome, where the nearest equivalent was clientelism. No classical Latin word therefore exists to signify it, and a new Low-Latin word feodum was invented by mediaeval European scribes to use in their Latinised charters and other writings.[3][4]

The term feudalism is recent, first appearing in French in 1823, Italian in 1827, English in 1839, and in German in the second half of the nineteenth century.[14] It derived from "feodal" which was used in seventeenth-century French legal treatises (1614)[15][16] and translated into English legal treatises as "feodal government". In the 18th century Adam Smith popularized the forms "feudal government" and "feudal system" in his book Wealth of Nations (1776).[14] In the 19th century the adjective "feudal" (i.e. "the feudal government") evolved into a noun: feudalism.[14]

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The term feudalism is recent, first appearing in French in 1823, Italian in 1827, English in 1839, and in German in the second half of the nineteenth century.[14] It derived from "feodal" which was used in seventeenth-century French legal treatises (1614)[15][16] and translated into English legal treatises as "feodal government". In the 18th century Adam Smith popularized the forms "feudal government" and "feudal system" in his book Wealth of Nations (1776).[14] In the 19th century the adjective "feudal" (i.e. "the feudal government") evolved into a noun: feudalism.[14]

what does this have to do with anything

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why not you've just been pulling the argument about barbarians being the founders of the Feudal age out of your ass with no references; you must be thinking "uhh yeah it makes sense in my head so it must be true".
Just because Britons were Anglos or Saxons by blood does not mean that the Barbarian tribes were the ones who invented the Feudal system.

Oh am I puling thing out of my ass now retard