How come Italy used to be the center of the civilized world,

[Genital Doli]

The collapse of central governing authority in the West meant that regional authorities were left to govern their various areas - most often military commanders, the strongest of whom were also immigrant barbarian federate kings. With no more central bureaucracy, Roman cities shrank or disappeared entirely and society reverted to a more "natural" rural agricultural base. Wealth was measured in land rather than money. There was also little role for learned civilian administrators outside of the church, so the landholding aristocracy focused on military service to maintain their status. The kings, in turn, tended to reward these loyal warriors with land.

even though the person who wrote this is most likely a retard, you do realize this supports my point and not yours right

[Plug Drugs]

even though the person who wrote this is most likely a retard, you do realize this supports my point and not yours right

remind me, what were the points

[Genital Doli]

remind me, what were the points

i said feudalism had its roots among the "barbarians" more or less as an off-handed comment that i expected to be taken at face value because it's true and then you went off on some weird tangent about how actually it comes from rome (i assume youre trying to relate it to the patron-client system of rome when actually this influenced italian dynamics but not european feudalism in the slightest).

[Alex Littleton]

remind me, what were the points

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