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    I don't care what Plug Drugs says, he is kind of a windows preacher.

    Well, i have serious critics against Apple and their products are:

    -No Support for Cross-Platform Developers.
    -No Friendly Support to compile apps for iOS and Mac for testing purpose until pay $ 99 dollars per year.
    -Windows and Linux can play VMWare Player, but no for mac, there an workaround is VMWare Fusion which is NOT free.
    -Buying Apple Products make you an easy developer for other apple products for runtime, but not so easy if you deploy cross platform.
    -Requires Certificate from iOS developer porgram before to compile .ipa (ridiculous)
    -No Compatible OSX for Virtual Machine on non-apple computers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elezzzark View Post
    I don't care what Plug Drugs says, he is kind of a windows preacher.

    Well, i have serious critics against Apple and their products are:

    -No Support for Cross-Platform Developers.
    -No Friendly Support to compile apps for iOS and Mac for testing purpose until pay $ 99 dollars per year.
    -Windows and Linux can play VMWare Player, but no for mac, there an workaround is VMWare Fusion which is NOT free.
    -Buying Apple Products make you an easy developer for other apple products for runtime, but not so easy if you deploy cross platform.
    -No Compatible OSX for Virtual Machine on non-apple computers.
    see these are valid complaints. I wish plug drugs would do this instead of making shit up all the time, I don't want to argue with him but I feel like I have to set him straight.

    Also they ruined the Macbook Pro. A professional grade laptop should not use SSD exclusively, nor should it's fucking RAM be soldered in. I'm pretty sure I've purchased my last Mac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    Also they ruined the Macbook Pro. A professional grade laptop should not use SSD exclusively, nor should it's fucking RAM be soldered in. I'm pretty sure I've purchased my last Mac.
    my thoughts exactly. i saw the press release for the new macbook pro and thought "i've bought my last one" (i own both an iMac 27" i5 2010 model and macbook pro (early 2012).
    I can live without an optical drive most of the time, but soldered ram, only SSD, nah...
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    by the way fuck vmware, virtualbox is free on every platform and has a lot more features than vmware player
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    by the way fuck vmware, virtualbox is free on every platform and has a lot more features than vmware player
    I know, but i'm developing a Blackberry Playbook apps which requires to use VMware as tablet simulator to install my .bar via local IP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elezzzark View Post

    -No Support for Cross-Platform Developers.
    that's because apple is a bunch of dirty jews who want to write ALL mac software under their license so they can keep ALL the money, muwahahaha beautiful money

    -No Friendly Support to compile apps for iOS and Mac for testing purpose until pay $ 99 dollars per year.
    Again, BEAUTIFUL money, MUWAHAHAHAHAHA
    -Windows and Linux can play VMWare Player, but no for mac, there an workaround is VMWare Fusion which is NOT free.
    BEAUTIFUL money MWAHAHAHAHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    that's because apple is a bunch of dirty jews who want to write ALL mac software under their license so they can keep ALL the money, muwahahaha beautiful money


    Again, BEAUTIFUL money, MUWAHAHAHAHAHA

    BEAUTIFUL money MWAHAHAHAHA
    yeah know who never cared about making money? bill gates, richest man in the world.

    hey where's the fully featured development environment microsoft makes available for free to anyone running windows?

    oh here it is it's $500
    http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudi...oducts/pricing

    Quote Originally Posted by elezzzark View Post
    I know, but i'm developing a Blackberry Playbook apps which requires to use VMware as tablet simulator to install my .bar via local IP.
    virtualbox usually does a pretty good job of running VMware appliances, it supports all the same image file formats
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    yeah know who never cared about making money? bill gates, richest man in the world.

    hey where's the fully featured development environment microsoft makes available for free to anyone running windows?

    oh here it is it's $500
    http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudi...oducts/pricing



    virtualbox usually does a pretty good job of running VMware appliances, it supports all the same image file formats


    Microsoft is horrible and closed-mind company, im using windows because we are living the horrible world.



    Oh yes? i will try virtualbox if supports .vmx files when i get chance
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    Quote Originally Posted by elezzzark View Post
    Microsoft is horrible and closed-mind company, im using windows because we are living the horrible world.



    Oh yes? i will try virtualbox if supports .vmx files when i get chance
    I can confirm that it supports vmx images.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    yeah know who never cared about making money? bill gates, richest man in the world.
    bill gates gives lots of his money away

    steve jobs clutched his covetously and probably wore it in a medallion of jew gold around his neck until he died and went to hell for parking his mercedes crooked in handicap spots
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    bill gates gives lots of his money away

    steve jobs clutched his covetously and probably wore it in a medallion of jew gold around his neck until he died and went to hell for parking his mercedes crooked in handicap spots
    That's true, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are visionaries, according to Bill Gates donated new houses in Africa.

    Then, Steve Jobs.... NOTHING... when he died, the majority of apple faggots are making tribute to him for nothing. I don't believe he is a person who changed the world, besides Dennis who is creator of C programming language did change the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    unix based operating systems are more secure but let's not overlook market share as being a pretty big reason

    if people had more reason to target Unix based operating systems Apple wouldn't be claiming "immunity" to viruses for very long, Windows IS less secure and has a far larger market share, so it makes sense to exploit it since it's easier and gives access to a much larger "audience"
    Yeah, Windows is a script kiddy's wet dream, easy to exploit and retardedly widespread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    bill gates gives lots of his money away

    steve jobs clutched his covetously and probably wore it in a medallion of jew gold around his neck until he died and went to hell for parking his mercedes crooked in handicap spots
    That's not a fair comparison, Bill Gates didn't get all altruistic until after he retired, Before that he was as ruthless and greedy as any other fortune 500 ceo. I'm sure if Steve Jobs hadn't died in office he would have gotten involved in charity work, what else are you going to do when you have more than you could ever possibly spend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    That's not a fair comparison, Bill Gates didn't get all altruistic until after he retired, Before that he was as ruthless and greedy as any other fortune 500 ceo. I'm sure if Steve Jobs hadn't died in office he would have gotten involved in charity work, what else are you going to do when you have more than you could ever possibly spend.
    Bill Gates retired so that he COULD get started in charities, Steve Jobs never donated to charity, eliminated Apple charity programs when they brought him back to work there in 97 saying he wanted to "make the company profitable" and then never reinstated them even after all their success, and from what I've heard never had any interest in charities. he spent all his money on sports cars and black turtlenecks. there is no record at all of him giving any of his 8 billion dollars to charity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    Bill Gates retired so that he COULD get started in charities, Steve Jobs never donated to charity, eliminated Apple charity programs when they brought him back to work there in 97 saying he wanted to "make the company profitable" and then never reinstated them even after all their success, and from what I've heard never had any interest in charities. he spent all his money on sports cars and black turtlenecks. there is no record at all of him giving any of his 8 billion dollars to charity.
    He could have given anonymously, I find it hard to believe that a ghuddist was that greedy. idc either way though, I'm a fan of his operating system I couldn't give a fuck about the man. I'm a techie, I like Wozniak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elezzzark View Post
    I don't care what Plug Drugs says, he is kind of a windows preacher.

    Well, i have serious critics against Apple and their products are:

    -No Support for Cross-Platform Developers.
    -No Friendly Support to compile apps for iOS and Mac for testing purpose until pay $ 99 dollars per year.
    -Windows and Linux can play VMWare Player, but no for mac, there an workaround is VMWare Fusion which is NOT free.
    -Buying Apple Products make you an easy developer for other apple products for runtime, but not so easy if you deploy cross platform.
    -Requires Certificate from iOS developer porgram before to compile .ipa (ridiculous)
    -No Compatible OSX for Virtual Machine on non-apple computers.
    I have my own complaints.
    I should be able to right-click on an Apple PC.
    I should also have a command-line interface, even if it's just reduced to a shell-within-a-gui-shell.
    Context "keyboards" should produce the same letter I touch, not the letter two "keys" to the right.
    And all of their "smart" dumbterminals, ipad ipod ibook wtf/e that people now use for telephones are purposefully designed to not be rugged in the least - no clamshell designs, no thought at all put towards protecting the screen.
    It's hell for the consumer, but it's just everyday business sense. If your product doesn't wear out or go out-of-fashion after too long, then you won't be able to make much money from repeat customers, particularly when the vast majority of a population is forced towards frugality by a shit economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blumpkin blownuts View Post
    I have my own complaints.
    I should be able to right-click on an Apple PC.
    I should also have a command-line interface, even if it's just reduced to a shell-within-a-gui-shell.
    Context "keyboards" should produce the same letter I touch, not the letter two "keys" to the right.
    And all of their "smart" dumbterminals, ipad ipod ibook wtf/e that people now use for telephones are purposefully designed to not be rugged in the least - no clamshell designs, no thought at all put towards protecting the screen.
    It's hell for the consumer, but it's just everyday business sense. If your product doesn't wear out or go out-of-fashion after too long, then you won't be able to make much money from repeat customw@ers, particularly when the vast majority of a population is forced towards frugality by a shit economy.
    Osx has a right click and has for as long as I've been using it. It also has a shell, in fact its bash the same thing you'd get in any other bsd or linux distro. It includes all the gnu shell utilities you'd expect, including ssh which for me is incredibly convenient beecause I use ssh for bloody everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elezzzark View Post
    I don't care what Plug Drugs says, he is kind of a windows preacher.

    Well, i have serious critics against Apple and their products are:

    -No Support for Cross-Platform Developers.
    -No Friendly Support to compile apps for iOS and Mac for testing purpose until pay $ 99 dollars per year.
    -Windows and Linux can play VMWare Player, but no for mac, there an workaround is VMWare Fusion which is NOT free.
    -Buying Apple Products make you an easy developer for other apple products for runtime, but not so easy if you deploy cross platform.
    -Requires Certificate from iOS developer porgram before to compile .ipa (ridiculous)
    -No Compatible OSX for Virtual Machine on non-apple computers.
    Also compiling a list of "experts" who jumped into the crock of total shit that Apples can't get viruses/malware.
    Harmful software follows consumer trends like a fucking shadow. Apple finally got back on the radar, now people are writing harmful programs for Apple.
    Same story with Symantec/McAfee and AVAST. Now that Avast is closing in on No.2 market share, viruses are being written to interfere with Avast processes in particular, as they did for the two previously-mentioned leading antivirus products for over a decade.
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