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    why Plug Drugs doesn't have a blog?


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    I'll kill myself live on cam as soon as there's proof I literlaly promise, I will sincerely kill myself as soon as I see elz's computer playing arma 3 maxed with all nvidia exclusive graphics
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    i have nothing against someone taking codeine when they have chronic back pain or something. i have something against plu gdrugs being a piece of shit and daring to criticize the medical industry when he himself regularly exploits it. its like the people who start a food fight and then learn that their lunch time has been cut in half and then whine about it. its not like your an innocent victim here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    theres a whole subsection of books at every department store dedicated to this generation of adult women who secretly hate everyone and everything. Trashy romance, self help books, chicken soup for the used-up, benzoed-out "married to a fat snub-dicked dick-head's" soul
    What you need to do is stockpile guns and shoot up everyone in a book store. Whatever you do, do not stop taking drugs. They are like opening your mind's eye mannnn
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    Quote Originally Posted by blumpkin blownuts View Post
    there's no way around it -- many good medicines have side effects, one of those being obsessive compulsions to misuse the medicine in certain types of patients.

    the AMA has many times gotten bad medicine taken off the market, no matter how hard the pushers lobby for it. remember palladone? what about rx heroin?

    addicts are addicts before they ever pick up the first drug. it's when that happens that the addiction actively manifests itself, and active addiction is the only way to differentiate between the two. like most side effects, it affects a mniority of patients. in the meantime, millions of non-addicts are able to function without debilitating pain.
    heroin sucks dude, its fucking garbage.. they've done blind studies where most addicts preferred morphine over heroin; a sort of pepsi challenge for junkies. But we've all made heroin the "big villain" for some reason
    i think its because nobody gives a shit until we're on the verge of a perceived epidemic.
    I agree, morphine and company shouldnt be sold at your local corner store, with kids running around with syringes willy nilly and whatever, it should be regulated - But still legal. Classes should be required on the safe use of drugs.
    People need to start coming up with real facts and solutions about the drugs they preach about - no more superstition.
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    uh morphine is legal
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    also, heroin is a horrible drug that lots of retards use. they dont even shoot powdered heroin, they shoot that black tar shit into their muscles and they literally die horribel deaths
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    shut the fuck up idiots


    Quote Originally Posted by Steffies Yelle View Post
    I'll kill myself live on cam as soon as there's proof I literlaly promise, I will sincerely kill myself as soon as I see elz's computer playing arma 3 maxed with all nvidia exclusive graphics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    the vast majority of people who take opiods safely and responsibly dont develop addictions. there are treatments available for those who do. opiods are safe and effective drugs for most people
    Most people who have to take opioids don't get the body buzz and euphoria that addicts get. They just feel dizzy groggy and nauseous but the tradeoff is they aren't screaming in agony 24/7
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    Quote Originally Posted by blumpkin blownuts View Post
    Most people who have to take opioids don't get the body buzz and euphoria that addicts get. They just feel dizzy groggy and nauseous but the tradeoff is they aren't screaming in agony 24/7
    thats what theyre supposed to do, but the ppl who get euphoria dont get it because theyre addicts. its a pharmacological fact that if youre in pain you get no euphoria
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    there are also drugs to control opiod-induced nausea and it often resolves by itself after a week or two on the drug. :retardedfaggotguy:
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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDucat View Post
    die
    I want to die. Please strangle me, cag. Tie me up and murder me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    i have nothing against someone taking codeine when they have chronic back pain or something. i have something against plu gdrugs being a piece of shit and daring to criticize the medical industry when he himself regularly exploits it. its like the people who start a food fight and then learn that their lunch time has been cut in half and then whine about it. its not like your an innocent victim here
    i just explained to you i dont exploit shit
    as for recreational drug use, humans have been using drugs recreationally for thousands of years and nothing, nothing, is going to change our innate desire to use drugs - short of a police state where we've thrown away every personal liberty after becoming convinced that drug users are the sole source plaguing society
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    i just explained to you i dont exploit shit
    as for recreational drug use, humans have been using drugs recreationally for thousands of years and nothing, nothing, is going to change our innate desire to use drugs - short of a police state where we've thrown away every personal liberty after becoming convinced that drug users are the sole source plaguing society
    lmao as if im reading further than the first sentence of any post u make Mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    a police state where we've thrown away every personal liberty after becoming convinced that drug users are the sole source plaguing society
    sounds good to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    thats what theyre supposed to do, but the ppl who get euphoria dont get it because theyre addicts. its a pharmacological fact that if youre in pain you get no euphoria
    is this honestly what they tell you?
    Opiates dont block the physical sensation of pain, they make you not give a shit that you're in pain
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    there's an internal subconscious process taking place when it comes to physical pain: say your arm gets cut off and the sensation of pain arrives from the peripheral nervous system to the central nervous system, it goes through a subconscious process before it comes to your conscious awareness. If it is not efficient for the sensation of pain to be brought to conscious awareness, the sensation will be blocked out subconsciously. Although the pain can still be felt consciously if the individual consciously thinks about it, the subconscious aspect will not bring the sensation of pain to conscious awareness unless the conscious aspect inquires it.

    Conscious awareness of the arm being cut off is likely to cause panic -- where as if it is best for immediate survival for higher consciousness NOT to be aware of the arm being cut off, the subconscious aspect will not make higher consciousness aware of the pain.

    Endorphins, and by extension opiates/opioids (which are agonists of the same receptors), are a part of this process.

    A person on an opiate/opioid can still feel pain if they think about it - opiates do not physically block the sensation of pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    is this honestly what they tell you?
    Opiates dont block the physical sensation of pain, they make you not give a shit that you're in pain
    wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post

    ...opiates do not physically block the sensation of pain.

    http://courses.washington.edu/conj/sensory/pain.htm
    ...The enkephalins (and dynorphin) are found in the periaqueductal gray, the medulla and the dorsal horns. Observe the pathway to the left that descends from the periaqueductal gray via the medulla to the dorsal horns. This leads to the release from interneurons of enkephalins that inhibit the flow of pain information to the brain....
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    uhhh I am pretty sure people just go into shock when their arm gets cut off and thats why it sometimes seems they dont notice when you see videos of people getting their legs blown off and shit

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    ya turns out the guy getting a pharmd knows more than the cart pusher at walmart about drugs
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    every junky is a hack-expert on internal medicine, just don't try asking us what beta-blockers do to our S-T intervals because that shit doesn't even fuck you up mannnnn so who cares
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    the vast majority of people who take opiods safely and responsibly dont develop addictions. there are treatments available for those who do. opiods are safe and effective drugs for most people
    and why do you think i'm any different?
    I wouldn't WANT to take opiates/opioids every day; by day 3-4 they're not euphoric anymore and just make me tired, no matter how much I took. I don't understand how people become physically addicted unless they just suck at taking drugs, or just keeping taking it anyways after the euphoria is gone because they dont know what else to do
    we should legalize them all and require classes on safe drug use to be taken - problem solved. That way, people would only use drugs when they were in the right state of mind for taking them to their benefit, instead of just addicting themselves to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    ya turns out the guy getting a pharmd knows more than the cart pusher at walmart about drugs
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    and why do you think i'm any different?
    I wouldn't WANT to take opiates/opioids every day; by day 3-4 they're not euphoric anymore and just make me tired, no matter how much I took. I don't understand how people become physically addicted unless they just suck at taking drugs, or just keeping taking it anyways after the euphoria is gone because they dont know what else to do
    we should legalize them all and require classes on safe drug use to be taken - problem solved. That way, people would only use drugs when they were in the right state of mind for taking them to their benefit, instead of just addicting themselves to them.
    i really hope this forum db is intact when you hit bottom so you can look back at this shit
    i used opiates "successfully" for 10 fucking years before i lost control and they stopped helping me escape disappointment
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    Quote Originally Posted by blumpkin blownuts View Post
    every junky is a hack-expert on internal medicine, just don't try asking us what beta-blockers do to our S-T intervals because that shit doesn't even fuck you up mannnnn so who cares
    i looked into alpha and beta blockers because i was interested in using them to suppress vascular constriction while on amphetamine, but that was a while back and, you're right, i don't care. I don't know why you would either unless you're trying to see if you can get your heart to beat to the rhythm of mary had a little lamb or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    i looked into alpha and beta blockers because i was interested in using them to suppress vascular constriction while on amphetamine, but that was a while back and, you're right, i don't care. I don't know why you would either unless you're trying to see if you can get your heart to beat to the rhythm of mary had a little lamb or something
    i (incorrectly) thought it would alleviate the hypertension-related spasming and jerking i suffered during my last few months at that army job
    because the mixture of xanax valium and ativan i was taking with my morphine just wasn't cutting it
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    Quote Originally Posted by blumpkin blownuts View Post
    i really hope this forum db is intact when you hit bottom so you can look back at this shit
    i used opiates "successfully" for 10 fucking years before i lost control and they stopped helping me escape disappointment
    you used your own body for strange drug experiments Dr Frankenstein style; that's not using drugs successfully that's just.. creepy
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