it's X vs. Y, not Y with Y and X with X. this is not to say that X&X and Y&Y cannot go together, but all Y needs an X, although X does not always need a Y. this is why everything is MAN mad, and woman get less. it's mens way of assuring themself that they are straight. also a cigar can sometimes just be a cigar, but they typically don't come in mens hole...