alright marco and jon the constitution is depending on u

[LadyKillmonger]

oh hey okay lets look that wikipedia article cool wait a second what's this, oh, humans arent fucking considered apes:

no that is a drawing made by someone who is offended at being called an ape

"Apes" are Hominoidea, that is the scientific term and humans are a part of the Superfamily Hominoidea.

It's not really open for debate. Ape describes a superfamily, not a specific species and humans are a part of the superfamily apes (scientific name Hominoidea)

end of story, so unless you want to invent a whole new biological clasification system, and have the scientific community actually use it then you are wrong

you know, the kingdom, phylum, class order etc.. stuff, the biological system of classification that scientists use and in that classification humans are apes.

"In recent years biologists have generally preferred to use only monophyletic groups in classifications;[citation needed] that is, only groups which include all the descendants of a common ancestor.[11] The superfamily Hominoidea is one such group (or "clade"). Some then use the term "ape" to mean all the members of the superfamily Hominoidea. For example, in a 2005 book, Benton wrote "The apes, Hominoidea, today include the gibbons and orang-utan ... the gorilla and chimpanzee ... and humans".[6] The group traditionally called "apes" by biologists is then called the "non-human apes"."

[Moonman]

no that is a drawing made by someone who is offended at being called an ape

lmao the shit you come up with

"Apes" are Hominoidea, that is the scientific term and humans are a part of the Superfamily Hominoidea.

"Apes" is a fucking word, one that predates the classification system

"Ape", from Old English apa, is possibly an onomatopoetic imitation of animal chatter. The term has a history of rather imprecise usage. Its earliest meaning was a tailless (and therefore exceptionally human-like) non-human primate.[7] The original usage of "ape" in English might have referred to the baboon, an Old World monkey.[citation needed] Two tailless species of macaque have common names including "ape": the Barbary ape of North Africa (introduced into Gibraltar), Macaca sylvanus, and the Sulawesi black ape or Celebes crested macaque, M. nigra."

[Moonman]

thats why tailless macaques are also called "apes", because "apes" is a technical word that we didnt ever use before we incorporated evolution into the zoological classification

[Moonman]

right?

[LadyKillmonger]

you were wrong

I was right