alright marco and jon the constitution is depending on u

[LadyKillmonger]

you said "apes" you fucking moron, not hominoidea, and i never anywhere in this thread said that orangutans/chimpanzees/gorillas were not apes, or that apes didnt include chimps/orangutans, i dont know where youre fucking coming up with this shit

yes michael I said "apes" because that is what we were talking about and that is what orangutans/chimpanzees/gorillas and humans are, like I first said you fucking loser

you then backpeddled, ran off, looked up apes, found the word hominoidea which is simply just a scientific word for APE

you dumb pile of shit

just stop, you're embarassing yourself

[Moonman]

yes michael I said "apes" because that is what we were talking about and that is what orangutans/chimpanzees/gorillas and humans are, like I first said you fucking loser

from the wikipedia article you linked

In summary, there are three common uses of the term "ape": non-biologists may not distinguish between "monkeys" and "apes", or may use "ape" for any tailless monkey or non-human hominoid, whereas biologists traditionally used the term "ape" for all non-human hominoids as shown above.