the fourm it's really neat, i clicked it and saw lisa was admin and then i clicked the thread, and it was lisa and rootbeer talking to each other about how bad RC (which i think means rubynet) is a bad place and there fourm with just the 2 of them and soon to be timlolol is a good fourm and then i closed it and i will never go back there again but it's great if it means neither of them ever post here again, i love that fourm for that