start8 isn't as cusotmizable as the ohter options but it's built exactly like windows 7's start menu which is good enough for the moment since all I do is secodn life and google sketchup right now anyway and windowsfx has nothing turned on except making it so I can snap windows all over the fucking place and it does it automatically when I open new ones and also turns stuff I"m notusing darker soI don't go blind as fast