and the gift card was 100 bucks they want to charge the same one when you upgrade and these one sare more http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/pro...tivity=running I figured I'd just go with them since the sandals dont' really go on easy I was gonna get both but idk why they call these ones sandals so the good news is once I get this figured out I might have only two pairs of vibramsand 100 dollars left over to buy a gun to kill myself with