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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    Oh god and now I just thought of how light (photons) bends with gravity but has no mass but then that's easy because it's the space time field that is warped and that's what gravity is.

    But at what kind of scale does all this break down?

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_scale

    There, you should like this
    There are no locations, only relations. So at planck length, Euclidean space turns in to gobbledygook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    Here you go, here's your gravity gif
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    There are no locations, only relations. So at planck length, Euclidean space turns in to gobbledygook
    So what happens to gravity at a Planck length?
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    I think it doesn't work at such a small scale which is why they have discovered the other forces that do... I mean I don't know but I would expect IF gravity was acting on a Planck length scale it would be easy enough for us to observe these days
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    Lisa, I'm right, I promise you
    It's always made sense to me, it only stops making sense after people like captain fuckhead DP over here convince me I'm wrong so I have to go back and re-question everything again
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    But instead it's the point where it all breaks down and the force of the various forces changes or something, in any event I would think if gravity worked the same on that scale we would have had some kind of observable evidence of that with all the shit they are doing now with quarks and bosons and whatnot, they found the Higgs boson but couldn't see gravity work on that scale? So what happens there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    Lisa, I'm right, I promise you
    It's always made sense to me, it only stops making sense after people like captain fuckhead DP over here convince me I'm wrong so I have to go back and re-question everything again
    A good thinker should go back and requestion everything.

    Listen I don't know everything but I do know what I know and you haven't been correct, it's like I and all those scientists said, you've gotten wind of a couple of concepts, not fully understood them, got them mixed up and made stuff up to fit the gaps. You have repeatedly gotten gravity and electromagnetism mixed up and wrong which was the basis of your whole theory so really it fell flat right there.

    I'm not dp.

    Anyway if you want a real mystery explain to me what happens to gravity at a Planck scale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    I think it doesn't work at such a small scale which is why they have discovered the other forces that do... I mean I don't know but I would expect IF gravity was acting on a Planck length scale it would be easy enough for us to observe these days
    Gravity IS what makes up the planck length scale; imagine there's an invisible tether between every single particle in the entire universe, then all the wiring looking like a grid.
    Now, instead of that, imagine particles emit a field out in all directions constantly which dwindles over distance. The waves from all of those fields from every particle in the universe is what forms the backbone of space
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    the smaller scale you get, the less Euclidean things look; so at planck length, if you're trying to get an image and you're making that image Euclidean, everything is a mishmashed quagmire at that scale and doesn't make any sense
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    Are you saying there is no gravity and only electromagnetism?

    Because there are too many observations that would strongly contest that.

    But scale DOES affect forces with like 2 of the 4 most fundamental ones working on a quantum scale and the other two working on an astronomical scale..... And at what point does this all break down? Apparently a Planck length...
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    Wow, Plug Drgugug wans a genius teh wohle time LOL
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    Hey Lisa how are you ;]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    Gravity IS what makes up the planck length scale; imagine there's an invisible tether between every single particle in the entire universe, then all the wiring looking like a grid.
    Now, instead of that, imagine particles emit a field out in all directions constantly which dwindles over distance. The waves from all of those fields from every particle in the universe is what forms the backbone of space
    The energy particles expend can be measured and there are very strict rules of physics governing that, what you are proposing is impossible due to the particles simply not being able to emit all that energy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    Hey Lisa how are you ;]
    Lol, want to chime in on photons and mesons per chance? ;)
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    I have the high score in clal of duty modern warfare 3 and im ranked #3 in the world behind the fat guy from megaupload
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    A good thinker should go back and requestion everything.

    Listen I don't know everything but I do know what I know and you haven't been correct, it's like I and all those scientists said, you've gotten wind of a couple of concepts, not fully understood them, got them mixed up and made stuff up to fit the gaps. You have repeatedly gotten gravity and electromagnetism mixed up and wrong which was the basis of your whole theory so really it fell flat right there.
    No - go to that forum and read the posts
    Lisa, if you just learned what planck length is, you are so far back it's unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    Listen I don't know everything but I do know what I know and you haven't been correct, it's like I and all those scientists said, you've gotten wind of a couple of concepts, not fully understood them, got them mixed up and made stuff up to fit the gaps. You have repeatedly gotten gravity and electromagnetism mixed up and wrong which was the basis of your whole theory so really it fell flat right there.
    No - go to that forum and read the posts
    Lisa, if you just learned what planck length was, you are so far back it's unbelievable.[/QUOTE]
    I just learnt the word, not the concept and you have not used that word even once util I asked you aboutit and you have said nothing about it and I have so don't try and pretend it's the other way around and that you know anything about it, because you don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    I have the high score in clal of duty modern warfare 3 and im ranked #3 in the world behind the fat guy from megaupload
    You are the first guy to actually impress me today lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    Here you go, here's your gravity gif
    This image is better
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    My iPad keyboard is plying upnd I need to go gets weed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    This image is better
    Yes it is because it is 3d
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    The energy particles expend can be measured and there are very strict rules of physics governing that, what you are proposing is impossible due to the particles simply not being able to emit all that energy
    you're full of shit, you know that?
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    Sup Doli, how goes things with having a tiny penis and whatnot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    Yes it is because it is 3d
    your trampoline model is 3d too it just sucks
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    the trampoline model sucks because you're trying to explain gravity, you can't use a trampoline because that uses gravity in its explanation
    try again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    your trampoline model is 3d too it just sucks
    It's not MY model. But I agree the one in the cube is better however you are meant to be able perceive that in a 3d sense and I meant like the space time fabric, and the analogy of a sheet, the 3d of yours showing the space time fabric as a cubed grid is much better but it's not like either of us actually drew those hello lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autistic Spectrum View Post
    and the last time you took a math class was a high school leval calc class 7 years ago, so i would have to say you are more qualifed to push carts then you are to science it up on the internet you pusdeo peice of shit, just stop
    i dont care, i used to skip classes and only show up on fridays to ace the quiz
    I learned differentials and integrals in a couple days a month or two ago for the fuck of it
    Don't you get it, any stupid shit you think makes you or anyone superior, I'm going to breeze through it and make you all look like assholes
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    Yeah I'll smoke another joint and talk about photons and mesons
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    Plug drugs, go graph all the quarks on a cross graph
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    Let's get a look at this on a cross graph
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