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    Quote Originally Posted by m0nde View Post
    I loved that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by m0nde View Post
    that is one thing that is absolutely not funny. i've had that pop up several times on client machines at several sites where i used to work but symantec enterprise always used to catch it.
    the idiots in marketing were using USB sticks for all of their campaigns, their ONLY copy of their campaigns, so when one of them got infected and it started searching drive letters well lets just say they lost several days worth of work because I am not going to ask the boss for $500 in bitcoins to pay the ransom. Strangely it ignored everything in ~/My Documents and the desktop so if they'd been keeping their crap where it belongs they would have been fine. Thank god we don't use mapped network drives for the front office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    the idiots in marketing were using USB sticks for all of their campaigns, their ONLY copy of their campaigns, so when one of them got infected and it started searching drive letters well lets just say they lost several days worth of work because I am not going to ask the boss for $500 in bitcoins to pay the ransom. Strangely it ignored everything in ~/My Documents and the desktop so if they'd been keeping their crap where it belongs they would have been fine. Thank god we don't use mapped network drives for the front office.
    Yeah people should keep all their media files and movies and porn in my dovuments where they belong, so they can get uploaded to cloud and everyone on your facebook can see that you like to watch bukkakegoosluts.avi and have windows media center share all of it over your wireless router without even asking you so your neighbors can enjoy your porn too
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    And have every stolen song/movie indexed by windows media player so its easier for someone to one day give you a fine for all of it
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    I love the default folders that arent organized in a coherent tree but just link to each other in a loop of shortcuts, microsoft did something right with that for sure
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    Can you imagine if all the bells and whistles were gone and files and folders were just organized in a classic tree hierarchy and thats all you had? Why, it'd be so efficient.. no one would ever need another operating system and the guys who made it wouldnt make any money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    Yeah people should keep all their media files and movies and porn in my dovuments where they belong, so they can get uploaded to cloud and everyone on your facebook can see that you like to watch bukkakegoosluts.avi and have windows media center share all of it over your wireless router without even asking you so your neighbors can enjoy your porn too
    this is a work computer numbnuts if they upload their marketing campaigns and icon packs for our mobile apps to facebook they will get fired.

    this is your biggest problem whenever you start yapping about computers you assume everyone in the world is using them exclusively for minecraft and social media like you are, you can't grasp the concept that it's an entirely different scenario in an office because you've never had a job. anyway, in the real world, the my documents directory exists to simplify migrations, backups, and rebuilds. I don't feel like tracking down c:\stuff\excel stuff\spreadsheets on 50 different workstations.

    not even going to explain permissions because it would break your tiny head if I tried to explain that not everyone logs in as an administrator all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plug drugs
    what's a standard user account? wait you mean there's people who can only write inside of their own profile? but how will they make a million subdirectories off the root of c:?? how will they install facebook toolbars and minecraft texture packs?? that's stupid!
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    anyway m0nde apparently the new version of cryptolocker deletes your shadow copies so don't count on them and it also secure erases the original files after they're encrypted so anything you get back with a file carver is going to be a few days old. best bet is to blacklist eexcutables in AppData and /temp, insist on chrome/firefox with adblock plus, backup a lot and hope for the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    this is a work computer numbnuts if they upload their marketing campaigns and icon packs for our mobile apps to facebook they will get fired.

    this is your biggest problem whenever you start yapping about computers you assume everyone in the world is using them exclusively for minecraft and social media like you are, you can't grasp the concept that it's an entirely different scenario in an office because you've never had a job. anyway, in the real world, the my documents directory exists to simplify migrations, backups, and rebuilds. I don't feel like tracking down c:\stuff\excel stuff\spreadsheets on 50 different workstations.

    not even going to explain permissions because it would break your tiny head if I tried to explain that not everyone logs in as an administrator all the time.
    No i know, I was just speaking in generalities and talking about myself, not office workers
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    And i dont like social media by the way, and i only just started playing minecraft on my computer

    What i actually spend most of my time doing on the internet is rambling like im doing right now
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    I know how permissions work by the way, we used to mess around with them in highschool
    One of my friends had a message pop up on every computer in the school saying "mwahahaha, bow down tot he almighty timothy"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    No i know, I was just speaking in generalities and talking about myself, not office workers
    why did you even comment if nothing you have to say is relevant
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    I'm of the belief that if you let your office employees have full control over their computer, theyll get their work done more efficiently as well as take pride in their work.
    Most office employees arent going to abuse that control.

    Just ask google, that philosophy of management works great
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    Plus, if an employee has that control and gets to know their computer well, they will be less likely tog et viruses, and be able tofix Them when they do get them
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    I'm of the belief that you have no idea what you're talking about and rarely do
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    I'm of the belief that you have no idea what you're talking about and rarely do
    okay let's look at this for a second:

    Google - the most powerful company in the world - its employees are given total control over the computers they work on and have no restrictions imposed on them by the IT guy - management trusts them to be responsible, and this philosophy works to their advantage as it generates creative thinking.

    Other Office Companies - heavily restrict what a worker is allowed to do on their computer - stuck in a perpetual corporate panic attack - due to the monotonous nature of the tasks they perform on their computer, the rate they can complete those tasks slows down and becomes excruciating

    If you let office workers be their own boss over their computer, they prioritize tasks intuitively and not only get things done faster, but also come up with new approaches when solving problems and figure out ways to cut corners.

    If you give employees the freedom to do things their own way, they'll put passion into their work.

    This wouldn't put you out of work or anything like that marks, it would actually make your job easier; you'd have smaller team sizes and therefore less possibility of someone getting a virus. If people always remember to back up their work in multiple ways, work is never lost. Worst case scenario, you do a fresh install of windows for someone and reinstall the essential software; with modern hardware, this would only take like 20 minutes. As long as their project is backed up, there are no drawbacks to this.
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    It would only be problematic for the book-keepers and those in charge of managing company finances; you'd definitely want things to be more secure for those computers.
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    I'm trying to help IT workers like you marks; there would be more office-environment companies starting up, and more IT positions opening up. Higher demand, higher pay for you. It would also be cheaper for the companies because they'd have less employees - when you have less employees but give them more control over how they do their job, they get more work done in less amount of time. This wouldn't put office workers out of business, because like I said, there'd be more office-environment companies turning up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    Worst case scenario, you do a fresh install of windows for someone and reinstall the essential software; with modern hardware, this would only take like 20 minutes.
    this sentence by itself is so laughably untrue that it invalidates everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plug drugs
    durr just reimage the machine and all their minecraft settings and facebook accounts come in from the web automatically it should only take about 20 minutes start to finish
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    All of that is part of an economic transition that's basically going to happen; it can't not happen - either people transition to this on their own, or the economy crashes and we have to transition anyways.
    What's going to happen is corporations will start to become much more region-based, with less multinational conglomerates. It's just a result of an increasing North American population; higher population density means that international super-corporations like walmart or mcdonalds will have less of a potential for profit compared to region-specific corporations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    this sentence by itself is so laughably untrue that it invalidates everything else.
    no it's not
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    stop thinking 'my job is to keep things as difficult as possible' and start thinking willy wonka and the chocolate factory
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    my job is to ensure stability and enable productivity reimaging everyone's machine once a week is the opposite of both those things
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    believe it or not office people do more than play minecraft and go on facebook, they're not sitting there reading about nietzche and chomsky on wikipedia, they are working in applications that the company bought and provided to them and they rarely if ever need any software outside of the scope of their job
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    Quote Originally Posted by plug drugs
    well this secretary never does anything but excel and word but I should probably make her an admin so she can install minecraft because that's my narrow minded interpretation of google's corporate policy and they're a big company so it would automatically make her more productive
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    my job is to ensure stability and enable productivity reimaging everyone's machine once a week is the opposite of both those things
    you've reached a ceiling effect though with 'stability and productivity', you're inadvertently preventing people from developing habits which would optimize stability and productivity on their own
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    I'm not saying make her an admin, I'm saying allow her to organize her computer in a way that works best for her
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    you know a standard user can't write outside of their profile right you should we just talked about it a few minutes ago
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