and you should all remember that rude replies in this thread will only make you madder when I have no choice but to resort to whatever the newest iphone is because I won't be buying an old one, I would be very careful and maybe consider helping me get ubuntu on this shitty $60 moto e4 or finding whatever shitty cheap phone ubuntu's making if they're making one, really think about this one guys cause if I have to get an iphone not only are you the ones paying for it I'll be sure to remind you that you're paying for it quite a bit