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    just buy up properties ane rent them out, retire early. thats what jon and i plan on doing anyway
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    retirement is the best time to date, no work no chance of pregnancy plenty of money
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cag. View Post
    just buy up properties ane rent them out, retire early. thats what jon and i plan on doing anyway
    terrible idea considering neither of you know about real estate finance or construction/regular upkeep of an apt etc...

    put your spare money in vanguards total stock market index or some field that you are educated in (e.g. if jon wanted to do a start-up or something).

    i doubt you have great access to credit (esp considering you bought your house with an FHA loan with like 2% down) or have any familiarity with the legal framework of organizing an LLC, obtaining lending to the LLC to leverage you RE investment and write off depreciation/re taxes/loan interest etc... (to maintain more profitability) etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cams Purple Lambo View Post
    terrible idea considering neither of you know about real estate finance or construction/regular upkeep of an apt etc...

    put your spare money in vanguards total stock market index or some field that you are educated in (e.g. if jon wanted to do a start-up or something).

    i doubt you have great access to credit (esp considering you bought your house with an FHA loan with like 2% down) or have any familiarity with the legal framework of organizing an LLC, obtaining lending to the LLC to leverage you RE investment and write off depreciation/re taxes/loan interest etc... (to maintain more profitability) etc...
    jon can buy homes with cash, hes not poor
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    jon can buy homes with cash, hes not poor
    rule 101 of real estate. you don't buy investment property with your own cash (solely) unless you're a dumbass.

    leverage your buying power with borrowed money (for better ROI, tax consequences, etc...). More leverage the better (in investing in RE). LLC will shield you from liability etc... besides personal guarantees on the loans etc...

    if you have extra money buy more investment properties or put it into the stock market. don't plunge all 200k of your savings to buy some shitty duplex in all cash (so dumb) more leverage = more profits from rent
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    jon can buy homes with cash, hes not poor
    see this

    Consider the common real estate purchase requirement of a 20% down payment – or $100,000 on a $500,000 asset. When a buyer puts only 20% of the money down, and borrows the rest, is essentially using a relatively small percentage of his or her own funds to make the purchase; the majority is being provided by a lender. That's why real estate investors often refer to the 80% remainder of the purchase price as "other people's money": It is, in fact, being provided by someone else.

    Assuming the property appreciates at 5% per year, the borrower's net worth from this purchase would grow to $525,000 in just 12 months. Comparing this gain to the gain from a purchase made outright, without any loan, highlights that value of the leveraging strategy. For example, the same borrower could have used the $100,000 to make a paid-in-full purchase of a $100,000 property.

    Assuming the same 5% rate of appreciation, the buyer's net worth from the purchase would have increased $5,000 over the course of 12 months, versus $25,000 for the more expensive property. The $20,000 difference demonstrates the potential net worth increase provided through the employment of leverage. Now, picture that 5% gain every year for 20 years. Over time, the use of leverage can have a significant, positive impact on your net worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cams Purple Lambo View Post
    terrible idea considering neither of you know about real estate finance or construction/regular upkeep of an apt etc...

    put your spare money in vanguards total stock market index or some field that you are educated in (e.g. if jon wanted to do a start-up or something).

    i doubt you have great access to credit (esp considering you bought your house with an FHA loan with like 2% down) or have any familiarity with the legal framework of organizing an LLC, obtaining lending to the LLC to leverage you RE investment and write off depreciation/re taxes/loan interest etc... (to maintain more profitability) etc...
    our mortgagr is already paid off. jon knows what hes doing.
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    has* present tense. we good. we alrrqdy set
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cag. View Post
    our mortgagr is already paid off. jon knows what hes doing.
    no he doesn't because you had a low interest FHA loan. why the fuck would you put 2k down on a 200k house and then pay it all off in cash like in 2 years lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cams Purple Lambo View Post
    no he doesn't because you had a low interest FHA loan. why the fuck would you put 2k down on a 200k house and then pay it all off in cash like in 2 years lmao
    lol he paid off our mortgage last december
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cams Purple Lambo View Post
    no he doesn't because you had a low interest FHA loan. why the fuck would you put 2k down on a 200k house and then pay it all off in cash like in 2 years lmao
    i initially joked that you are dumb as hell/poor for only putting 2k down on a 200k house because you can easily get underwater on a mtg that way (20% is sufficient cushion), but you got extremely lucky buying real estate at a very low price and having very cheap financing. your home has probably appreciate 25% in value or something

    rather than invest the 198k you just lit on fire and get like 10% returns in a total stock market index fund - you dumped it all into a home that is probably at the peak of its value (before an impending stock market or real estate market correction) and now if you want to buy another house interest rates are much higher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cams Purple Lambo View Post
    i initially joked that you are dumb as hell/poor for only putting 2k down on a 200k house because you can easily get underwater on a mtg that way (20% is sufficient cushion), but you got extremely lucky buying real estate at a very low price and having very cheap financing. your home has probably appreciate 25% in value or something

    rather than invest the 198k you just lit on fire and get like 10% returns in a total stock market index fund - you dumped it all into a home that is probably at the peak of its value (before an impending stock market or real estate market correction) and now if you want to buy another house interest rates are much higher
    i dont think i want to leave this house. we just put in a 20k retaining wall and stone patio last year and i actually want to enjoy them
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