Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
I never said anything about intelligence agencies, I said it's unpatriotic for an American to trust their government. It is, it always has been, it's one of the founding principles of this country and the reason we have a bill of rights (specifically the first and second amendments)
Whatever dude I don't disagree with you but I wanna talk about things litterally happening in real life and not just philosophies. Btw thanks for acknowledging that I'm holding my own (however marginal your ego will let you show in your hypothetical reply "yeah but your still wrong/elz is doing better"), even if its at the expense of cag who has mostly been trolling, unlike elz who sucks at debate

Cag says your giving him talking points or something, is that true? Just curious.