this thread so far: lisa whining and 'no, u!'ing, deso making an impassioned plea for sanity, dp making some very good and uncharacteristically humane points, wendy pilimng on the hate, and cag rehashing her 'above it all' gimmick she's been hanging on to for dear life for like 4 years despite being a former stripper who housewifed a hobbit she met on the internet.