PRESIDENT Barack Obama

[skrizach]

I just don't like his business practices or the way he ran Massachusetts. I also don't like the way he values corporations over individuals.

[maks]

I just don't like his business practices or the way he ran Massachusetts. I also don't like the way he values corporations over individuals.

really because he ran massachusetts exactly like obama runs the country except with less murder

[jon]

really because he ran massachusetts exactly like obama runs the country except with less murder

despite the truth of everything you have pointed out thus far, there is no doubt in my mind that had romney been elected after bush, he would not have green-lighted all the same murderous and interventionist shit obama has presided over


also i cannot believe there was anyone here to inform about obama authorizing the extrajudicial assassination of a u.s. citizen

how could there be people living and breathing in this world who did not hear about that

[maks]

despite the truth of everything you have pointed out thus far, there is no doubt in my mind that had romney been elected after bush, he would not have green-lighted all the same murderous and interventionist shit obama has presided over


also i cannot believe there was anyone here to inform about obama authorizing the extrajudicial assassination of a u.s. citizen

how could there be people living and breathing in this world who did not hear about that

In the press Obama is all sunshine and roses, he can get away with a hell of a lot more than even a different democrat could. Some people say it's race, I think it's charisma. He's got that Kennedy thing going on, people like his face and his speech and it's uncomfortable for the media to criticize him. Unfortunately for Romney, he came along at a point in time when it's considered blasphemy to be rich, anyone with a few million dollars is automatically to blame for the banks and the housing crisis and all the other dumb bullshit the ows assholes are always whining about.

[jon]

I just don't like his business practices or the way he ran Massachusetts. I also don't like the way he values corporations over individuals.

he ran mass. more or less the same as any democrat would (which is why i left)

dude i dont even know what that means to "value corporations over individuals" i dont know if you study much history but the legal construction of a limited liability corporation is one of the main reasons americans have so much wealth to argue about in the first place

in my experience a liberal complaining about a corporation, even in any abstract sense, is invariably talking about or thinking of a group that would not exist and do what it does without the implicit support of government force in the first place -- either some fascist oil company, or the prison bureaucracy, or some other setup where privilege has been given to the "private" half by the very same government they support for the very same anti-free-market reasons they believe are just

so maybe you wanna be a little more specific or maybe you wanna drop that one

[steveyos]

gosh I forgot... I'm the only funny person left

[steveyos]

no matter who wins the election, they'll never be able to make this forum funny again....

[skrizach]

he ran mass. more or less the same as any democrat would (which is why i left)

dude i dont even know what that means to "value corporations over individuals" i dont know if you study much history but the legal construction of a limited liability corporation is one of the main reasons americans have so much wealth to argue about in the first place

in my experience a liberal complaining about a corporation, even in any abstract sense, is invariably talking about or thinking of a group that would not exist and do what it does without the implicit support of government force in the first place -- either some fascist oil company, or the prison bureaucracy, or some other setup where privilege has been given to the "private" half by the very same government they support for the very same anti-free-market reasons they believe are just

so maybe you wanna be a little more specific or maybe you wanna drop that one

Well the thing is that I don't have a problem with corporations or politicians giving them breaks. I'm not some liberal wack job who wants some weird hippy bullshit.
What I mean is, that when it comes to Romney, it feels like a zero sum equation where his plan is cutting health care and raising taxes for the majority of the people so that he can create better opportunities for corporations that I do not feel would in turn benefit anyone except the ones who run the corporations.
He says that his idea is to do these things and that by easing up on businesses and corps it will create a better job market and in turn allow those businesses to offer their own health care and create more jobs but that simply hasn't been the case historically.
The corps and businesses tend to shunt the profits to the higher up and then downsize their workforce.

[maks]

What I mean is, that when it comes to Romney, it feels like a zero sum equation where his plan is cutting health care and raising taxes for the majority of the people so that he can create better opportunities for corporations that I do not feel would in turn benefit anyone except the ones who run the corporations.

Romney invented Obamacare, and has promised not to cut it if he's elected. In fact that's why I decided not to vote for him.