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    somewhat tangential rant --- not necessarily an extension of debate; open borders- anarchic-capitalism and minarchist-libertarianism

    ironically the concept of liberty will be snuffed out by the excessive use of that in the governments function.

    open borders are closer to an ancap view and should not be conflated as being libertarian. A minarchist government would enforce immigration policy because an open border can be abused by opposing nations. libertarianism can't survive the influx of an immigrant demographic with anti liberty views, specifically if the libertarians become the minority demographic at the polls. the idea of an open border is idyllic and has no claim to reason in considering the preservation of a nation.
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    It sounds like Trump is an islamophobe and he knows nothing about ISIS


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    Sure, it's a "not-a-muslim ban" that specifically excludes non-muslims from those same countries, it's totally constitutional and that's why the courts keep shutting it down

    I've overused the term 'weasel words' time to change it up



    THEY BE SPINNIN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    islamophobe
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    'weasel words'
    nice counterpoints
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    nice counterpoints
    dude your argument has boiled down to "Well it's not actually a muslim ban even though it only effects muslims" that's p much a webster's definition of weasel words are you sure you're not sarah huckabee sanders
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    nice counterpoints
    I said Trump is an islamophobe since he signed an order to ban travel for “muslims” from six countries, how do they know their religion is islam? Thats not true it’s race, it’s cheating how they identify browns or greek browns as muslims, you retard because you dont know how the debate works, youre just trolling


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    ALL I KNOW IS THAT TO ME
    IT'S ILLEGAL TO BAN THE MUSLIMS
    OPEN UP YOUR BORDERS DONALD WATCH OUT HERE I COME
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steffies Yelle View Post
    I'll kill myself live on cam as soon as there's proof I literlaly promise, I will sincerely kill myself as soon as I see elz's computer playing arma 3 maxed with all nvidia exclusive graphics
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    My name is donny, and I'd like to ban travel from predominantly muslim countries, and still allow christians jews athiests hindus and buddhists from those countries, but THIS IS NOT A MUSLIM BAN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    My name is donny, and I'd like to ban travel from predominantly muslim countries, and still allow christians jews athiests hindus and buddhists from those countries, but THIS IS NOT A MUSLIM BAN!
    If he voted for Trump, Im gladly he is already dead


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    I critically assessed brown people and discovered that I'm terrified of them and need a strong man with no regard for the law of the land to protect me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    My name is donny, and I'd like to ban travel from predominantly muslim countries, and still allow christians jews athiests hindus and buddhists from those countries, but THIS IS NOT A MUSLIM BAN!
    think
    MUSLIM BAN
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    MUSLIM TRAVEL BAN

    is it really any different than
    Trump calls some immigrants animals
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    Trump called MS-13 animals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    think
    MUSLIM BAN
    or
    MUSLIM TRAVEL BAN

    is it really any different than
    Trump calls some immigrants animals
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    Trump called MS-13 animals
    well MUSLIM BAN and MUSLIM TRAVEL BAN are both unconstitutional so there's really no need to nitpick
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    well MUSLIM BAN and MUSLIM TRAVEL BAN are both unconstitutional so there's really no need to nitpick
    he has the authority 8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens: (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    he has the authority 8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens: (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
    don't tell me, tell the judges that keep striking his TRAVEL BAN down as illegal
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    trump is a one dimensional retard, the travel ban is a one dimensional islamophobic action, muslims are a one dimensional vague entity. your worldview is one dimensional. I don't blindly follow trump- Donald trump works for ME. I can critically assess and critique trump and any of your grievances with him but you deny us of this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    trump is a one dimensional retard, the travel ban is a one dimensional islamophobic action, muslims are a one dimensional vague entity. your worldview is one dimensional. I don't blindly follow trump- Donald trump works for ME. I can critically assess and critique trump and any of your grievances with him but you deny us of this discussion.
    Yeah I guess I'm not deep enough to shit on the constitution out of fear and prejudice
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    Yeah I guess I'm not deep enough to shit on the constitution out of fear and prejudice

    'ironically the concept of liberty will be snuffed out by the excessive use of that in the governments function'

    one dimensional interpretation of the constitution
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    'ironically the concept of liberty will be snuffed out by the excessive use of that in the governments function'

    one dimensional interpretation of the constitution
    the bill of rights exists to hold government power in check, if you give an inch you'll lose it all. the federal government is a bigger threat to my way of life than any goddamn sand monkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    the bill of rights exists to hold government power in check, if you give an inch you'll lose it all. the federal government is a bigger threat to my way of life than any goddamn sand monkey.
    welcome to post cold war planet earth. your one dimensional world view fails to see the actors playing both sides of a nuclear arms race.
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    I want to make a proposal to FEC, my idea is API with blockchain which is available to everyone, it helps to prevent fraud, have no corruption and provide 100% real result according to their IDs, also API is exposed to the public without cost, you may fetch a list of people who voted the candidate in your city, for example, click to fetch list of voters who voted for Trump in your city, you get 594 voters with their full name and some data including pictures, except their address for their privacy and you may ban them from your own restaurant since you have rights to refuse your services to anyone.


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    he is doing an amazing job protecting you from brown people you have an irrational fear of, and you only had to sacrifice the most important amendment in the bill of rights to get it, I call that a bargain!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    he is doing an amazing job protecting you from brown people you have an irrational fear of, and you only had to sacrifice the most important amendment in the bill of rights to get it, I call that a bargain!
    hes doing an amazing job draining the swamp! if the courts stuck it down nothing happened right? he successfully 'banned muslims', a campaign promise, and he didn't even break the law!
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    I mean yeah DC is still full of insiders and lobbyists but hey at least we've irreparably damaged the constitution, that's how you drain a motherfucking swamp, MAGA!
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    make amaerica great again bring back monarchy and taxation without representation the revolutionary war was a mistake
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    make amaerica great again bring back monarchy and taxation without representation the revolutionary war was a mistake
    funny slogan, very creative
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    yeah drain the swamp, who needs civil liberties that's just a bunch of left wing hillary obama socialist nonsense
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    trump has been the president for the past two centuries and hes one dimensionally responsible for all authoritarianism!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    trump has been the president for the past two centuries and hes one dimensionally responsible for all authoritarianism!
    we haven't had a president with such a hard-on for authoritarianism since LBJ, and I think trump may be worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    we haven't had a president with such a hard-on for authoritarianism since LBJ, and I think trump may be worse
    I disagree
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