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    This also leads to the feeling of being 'one with nature', as your nervous system has to align itself with its eenvironment
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    With that in mind, doing things like camping or even just being outside can evoke psychedelic experiences
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    This phenomenon is perhaps most recognizable in the jungles of south america, where the exotic plant life brings a whole spectrum of psychoactive chemicals in the local environment -- ayahuasca is a prime example, where several plants produce profound effects in conjunction with each other, but by themselves do not
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    The more you know
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    Then there's people like bob highes who use themselves as guinea pigs for experimenting with bizarre and arbitrary drug cocktails. Bob was like a mad scientist, toying around with his adrenal system and other things, achieving no desirable effects but doing it merely to see if he could, and damaging his circulatory system in the process
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    Quote Originally Posted by m0nde View Post
    I loved that!
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    I'm of the belief that you have no idea what you're talking about and rarely do
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    I'm of the belief that you have no idea what you're talking about and rarely do
    okay let's look at this for a second:

    Google - the most powerful company in the world - its employees are given total control over the computers they work on and have no restrictions imposed on them by the IT guy - management trusts them to be responsible, and this philosophy works to their advantage as it generates creative thinking.

    Other Office Companies - heavily restrict what a worker is allowed to do on their computer - stuck in a perpetual corporate panic attack - due to the monotonous nature of the tasks they perform on their computer, the rate they can complete those tasks slows down and becomes excruciating

    If you let office workers be their own boss over their computer, they prioritize tasks intuitively and not only get things done faster, but also come up with new approaches when solving problems and figure out ways to cut corners.

    If you give employees the freedom to do things their own way, they'll put passion into their work.

    This wouldn't put you out of work or anything like that marks, it would actually make your job easier; you'd have smaller team sizes and therefore less possibility of someone getting a virus. If people always remember to back up their work in multiple ways, work is never lost. Worst case scenario, you do a fresh install of windows for someone and reinstall the essential software; with modern hardware, this would only take like 20 minutes. As long as their project is backed up, there are no drawbacks to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    Worst case scenario, you do a fresh install of windows for someone and reinstall the essential software; with modern hardware, this would only take like 20 minutes.
    this sentence by itself is so laughably untrue that it invalidates everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    this sentence by itself is so laughably untrue that it invalidates everything else.
    no it's not
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    It would only be problematic for the book-keepers and those in charge of managing company finances; you'd definitely want things to be more secure for those computers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plug drugs
    durr just reimage the machine and all their minecraft settings and facebook accounts come in from the web automatically it should only take about 20 minutes start to finish
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    All of that is part of an economic transition that's basically going to happen; it can't not happen - either people transition to this on their own, or the economy crashes and we have to transition anyways.
    What's going to happen is corporations will start to become much more region-based, with less multinational conglomerates. It's just a result of an increasing North American population; higher population density means that international super-corporations like walmart or mcdonalds will have less of a potential for profit compared to region-specific corporations.
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    stop thinking 'my job is to keep things as difficult as possible' and start thinking willy wonka and the chocolate factory
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    believe it or not office people do more than play minecraft and go on facebook, they're not sitting there reading about nietzche and chomsky on wikipedia, they are working in applications that the company bought and provided to them and they rarely if ever need any software outside of the scope of their job
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    And if she's got nothing else to do at the moment and feels like playing solitaire or something, who gives a shit; having entertainment during downtime puts workers in a better mood, and hence it increases productivity

    Social media could be problematic I suppose; some people would feel too entitled to just talk on facebook 90% of the time and would act like you're inconveniencing them when you ask them to actually do some work.
    Most people, if they actually enjoy their job and are given the freedom to be creative, aren't ever going to abuse their freedom though (given that they actually have something to do and are never being pressured to always be doing something).

    And anyways, with smart phones nowadays, you're never going to totally stop people from going on facebook and whatever when they shouldn't.

    Besides that, there are legitimate reasons someone might need to go on facebook during work: they might need to ask their husband/wife to pick up their kid from school; they might need to look up a phone number that is only listed on facebook; etc..

    Again, you should stop thinking 'my job is to keep things as difficult as possible'
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    Quote Originally Posted by plug drugs
    well this secretary never does anything but excel and word but I should probably make her an admin so she can install minecraft because that's my narrow minded interpretation of google's corporate policy and they're a big company so it would automatically make her more productive
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    I'm not saying make her an admin, I'm saying allow her to organize her computer in a way that works best for her
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    I'm trying to help IT workers like you marks; there would be more office-environment companies starting up, and more IT positions opening up. Higher demand, higher pay for you. It would also be cheaper for the companies because they'd have less employees - when you have less employees but give them more control over how they do their job, they get more work done in less amount of time. This wouldn't put office workers out of business, because like I said, there'd be more office-environment companies turning up.
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    my job is to ensure stability and enable productivity reimaging everyone's machine once a week is the opposite of both those things
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    my job is to ensure stability and enable productivity reimaging everyone's machine once a week is the opposite of both those things
    you've reached a ceiling effect though with 'stability and productivity', you're inadvertently preventing people from developing habits which would optimize stability and productivity on their own
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    you know a standard user can't write outside of their profile right you should we just talked about it a few minutes ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    you know a standard user can't write outside of their profile right you should we just talked about it a few minutes ago
    Are there multiple people using the same computer, or user profiles accessible on multiple computers or something? I suppose I understand where you're coming from then, but in a cubicle setting where everyone is using the same computer every day, why not allow them to be the admin of their own computer, or at least give them some of the same permissions as an admin, so they can do things in their own way?
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    m0nde I think you just look at a post and assume what is being said before even reading it; using your imagination to fill in the blanks like that just holds me to my negative reputation, which I don't care about so you can save it
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    I don't need to prove that this philosophy works because Google Inc. tested it out and already proved it for me.
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    Also, I'm not suggesting you suddenly let everyone in the office have unrestricted control over their computer, because let's face it, people can be idiots.
    But with smaller team sizes, if you just let people get to know their computer, they won't do dumb things as much
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    please stop. i don't even knw why max is talking to you rationally wihthout simply telling yo to shut the fuck up

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    Quote Originally Posted by m0nde View Post
    please stop. i don't even knw why max is talking to you rationally wihthout simply telling yo to shut the fuck up
    what's your problem
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    it's just painful watching you regurgitate the same rubbish again and again with no clue how any of it applies in the real world in a way this is laboriously long winded

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