the biggest idiot on camera you will ever see

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you mean the defenders of "i want to make money so i'll join the military because FUCK minimum wage!"

[blumpkin blownuts]

there's going to be some of those for every profession
i've worked with soldiers from cadets up to generals, 92's to infantry, and trust me the vast majority love the sense of honor as much or more than the pay

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and which type of person was the guy in the video?

[blumpkin blownuts]

and which type of person was the guy in the video?

the guy sacrificing himself so his squad could retreat or find cover? definitely the guy who whines about his pay

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the guy sacrificing himself so his squad could retreat or find cover? definitely the guy who whines about his pay

i just dont think that is what was going on in this video.. but all we know is what the camera showed.. we can't really know if his squad was pinned down, or if he was just a dumbass

[blumpkin blownuts]

i just dont think that is what was going on in this video.. but all we know is what the camera showed.. we can't really know if his squad was pinned down, or if he was just a dumbass

exactly... not much point in speculating. and i wasn't bothered enough to watch the followups, the interview etc...

infantry isn't full of geniuses but they average about a million bucks apiece, mostly on their training

[maks]

where's the honor in invading a bunch of stone age primitives and fucking up their home

[blumpkin blownuts]

where's the honor in invading a bunch of stone age primitives and fucking up their home

and helping them stand up to threats from tyrant mullahs, and training them to defend their homeland, and building them free infrastructure? preparing them to rid their own country of terrorists so we don't have to impinge on their traditional lifestyles again to keep our own interest safe?
our efforts in the middle east may not have realistic expectations, but they have honorable intentions

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and helping them stand up to threats from tyrant mullahs, and training them to defend their homeland, and building them free infrastructure? preparing them to rid their own country of terrorists so we don't have to impinge on their traditional lifestyles again to keep our own interest safe?
our efforts in the middle east may not have realistic expectations, but they have honorable intentions

and all the oil and saving all the jews in jerusalem are bonuses of course

[blumpkin blownuts]

and all the oil and saving all the jews in jerusalem are bonuses of course

the ayatollah needs to understand the jews have a right to exist
the jews need to understand the palestinians have a right to exist
the israeli situation is an untouchable trainwreck

[maks]

and helping them stand up to threats from tyrant mullahs, and training them to defend their homeland, and building them free infrastructure? preparing them to rid their own country of terrorists so we don't have to impinge on their traditional lifestyles again to keep our own interest safe?
our efforts in the middle east may not have realistic expectations, but they have honorable intentions

no we're actually going into their homes and blowing shit up, that's why there are terrorists because we destroy people's homes and kill their relatives. If someone did that to me you bet your ass there would be a red dawn situation going on.

[blumpkin blownuts]

no we're actually going into their homes and blowing shit up, that's why there are terrorists because we destroy people's homes and kill their relatives. If someone did that to me you bet your ass there would be a red dawn situation going on.

that's often the case in iraq because that was a fuck-up from the beginning... dumbya made that decision to go in, and it's not entirely his fault as he was manipulated by Douglas Feith and John Yoo. but once we deposed saddam we had to stay until the job is finished -- in for a penny, in for a pound

afghanistan is legitimate war on terror. it was legitimate war, and in war innocent lives will be lost, especially when the enemy uses their own people as human shields. there's also isolated incidents where our guys have intentionally murdered friendlies - most of the time the perps were contractors, and i know by personal experience that the vetting for defense contractors is a fucking joke.

[maks]

i'll admit i'm a personal fanboy of the jews, but they are not immune to mistakes just like every other group of people on the planet. We actively favor them in political dilemmas for no real reason, which is wrong

white guilt over the holocaust mainly

that's often the case in iraq because that was a fuck-up from the beginning... dumbya made that decision to go in, and it's not entirely his fault as he was manipulated by Douglas Feith and John Yoo. but once we deposed saddam we had to stay until the job is finished -- in for a penny, in for a pound

Pretty sure it's the case in any country that we invade and occupy...

afghanistan is legitimate war on terror. it was legitimate war, and in war innocent lives will be lost, especially when the enemy uses their own people as human shields. there's also isolated incidents where our guys have intentionally murdered friendlies - most of the time the perps were contractors, and i know by personal experience that the vetting for defense contractors is a fucking joke.

I understand all that, what I don't understand is how these guys can delude themselves into believing there's honor in that. It's not like the US was invaded and are striking back, we went in because we were pissed and because we could, we've been taking out our national anger on these people for 11 years now.

and helping them stand up to threats from tyrant mullahs, and training them to defend their homeland, and building them free infrastructure? preparing them to rid their own country of terrorists so we don't have to impinge on their traditional lifestyles again to keep our own interest safe?
our efforts in the middle east may not have realistic expectations, but they have honorable intentions

indeed
though i am generally a kidna liberal guy (primarily socially) i will forever argue that military itnerventions are justified when they remove threats to the US/its allies and/or crazy dictators. in this case, both. if u want clarification on why i belive this, look up Christopher Hitchens' debat with his brother where he explains why he supproted the wars. he puts it better than i can

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save Jerusalem, save the world

[timmy]

saving jews isnt a bonus, its collateral

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we should also save all the aids-ridden diamond miners in africa from their oppresive terorist leaders, oh wait, those terrorist leaders are in the pockets of jews from antwerp

[blumpkin blownuts]

we should also save all the aids-ridden diamond miners in africa from their oppresive terorist leaders, oh wait, those terrorist leaders are in the pockets of jews from antwerp

look i dont understand why we help some people and not others... why we sent troops to die in kosovo (and rightfully so) but threw the sudan under the bus

[maks]

if we wanted to stop terrorism we'd be nuking israel right now

[Lexi Persimmons]

some of these cuntz like PD would be shittin thier pants. just wait, it's comin to your
neighborhoods.

niggas

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i'll admit i'm a personal fanboy of the jews, but they are not immune to mistakes just like every other group of people on the planet. We actively favor them in political dilemmas for no real reason, which is wrong

[Lexi Persimmons]

PD, suck a bag a dicks. take more drugs go fall in sour and drown.

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PD, suck a bag a dicks. take more drugs go fall in sour and drown.

pussy

[blumpkin blownuts]

we didn't send a seal team after osama just to show how big our dicks are, it's additionally due to the fact that he was still dangerous. and there's still more taliban, mujahideen, imams, mullahs etc we need to take out before we can ever get back to normalcy and no longer have need for questionable & dishonorable initiatives like the patriot act or the TSA

[timmy]

we didn't send a seal team after osama just to show how big our dicks are, it's additionally due to the fact that he was still dangerous. and there's still more taliban, mujahideen, imams, mullahs etc we need to take out before we can ever get back to normalcy and no longer have need for questionable & dishonorable initiatives like the patriot act or the TSA

you actually believe osama did 9/11?
even though when his video is properly translated from afghan saying he had nothing to do with it?(which was given false subtitles saying he did)

[blumpkin blownuts]

holy shit i've been warped to prisonplanet forums

[maks]

we didn't send a seal team after osama just to show how big our dicks are,

holy shit yes we did, killing him changed nothing but american's feelings towards their president

[Lexi Persimmons]

jesus! Osama been dead for ten years.You obvously don't know what the fuck is going on.

you seem more than a bit brained washed. christ wake the fuck up!

[blumpkin blownuts]

then who did it? i don't fully discount it as an inside job, after all WTC 1,2,7 were the first and only skyscrapers in human history to fall due to fire. the empire state bldg was hit by a fucking B-52 in the 30's or 40's and didnt collapse.

but i'd like to see a link to this story that not enough people could translate the bin laden videos correctly, this sounds like a huge fucking crock

[timmy]

then who did it? i don't fully discount it as an inside job, after all WTC 1,2,7 were the first and only skyscrapers in human history to fall due to fire. the empire state bldg was hit by a fucking B-52 in the 30's or 40's and didnt collapse.

but i'd like to see a link to this story that not enough people could translate the bin laden videos correctly, this sounds like a huge fucking crock

the suggestion that osama had nothing to do with it is not an implication that it was an inside job.