building a desktop please help THIS IS MY CHANCE TO GET OFF DISABILITY YOU CAN BREAK THE CHAINS YOU CAN SAVE THE WORLD YOU CAN G

[steveyos]

I also want to do hd video editing dual monitor setup one running second life max graphics recording fraps on high settings the other converting video and uploading to fjs while listneing to music and watching macho man on netflix ok ugh

[maks]

but I have a $3600 budget >.<

I'm still going to suggest you pick a GPU and build the rest of the machine around it, it's the most important consideration for what you're planning to do with this machine.

[steveyos]

SATA 3 is common now and even the budget motherboards should come with at least one port. You could splurge on a SSD but that's probably going to put you over budget

what I listed has me at $3,454.92 (8 Items)

but idk if I really need $800 ram I dont' know if that actaully will give $800 performance or if I'm just pulling a ruby, but if really does make a difference then I want it but idkkkkkk

[steveyos]

I'm still going to suggest you pick a GPU and build the rest of the machine around it, it's the most important consideration for what you're planning to do with this machine.

ok then is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121724 the newest and best?

[steveyos]

I also wanna play arma 3 maxed recording fraps maxed as I kill ruby tim and tek over and over and record myself screaming at how unfunny they are and how bad at videogames tek and tim are

[maks]

ok then is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121724 the newest and best?

I don't know if it's the absolute newest and best (That would cost more than your whole budet and you probably couldn't get it on neweg) but it's pretty kickass and nvidia historically has better drivers than ati

[maks]

what I listed has me at $3,454.92 (8 Items)

but idk if I really need $800 ram I dont' know if that actaully will give $800 performance or if I'm just pulling a ruby, but if really does make a difference then I want it but idkkkkkk

The speed matters more than the size, and if it's too slow it can bottleneck everything. get the fastest RAM your board and cpu can support

[maks]

in most cases ram speed will matter more than cpu speed

[steveyos]

fadsgsgdsagsgsfgfd

[steveyos]

ok let me see if I can figure out how to tell the speed of ram hold on

[steveyos]

I'm guessing DDR3 3000 is the speed so

[steveyos]

oh yeah I checked that earlier so yeah it's either $1600 or $800, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...PC3%2024000%29

that's the only two choices, death to america

[Plug Drugs]

all i heard was

[steveyos]

I'm starting to think NO ONE knows what the newest stuff is, not even nvidia or intel

[Plug Drugs]

I'm starting to think NO ONE knows what the newest stuff is, not even nvidia or intel

NOW YOU KNOW TOO MUCH

[juji]

You should have listened to maks, he worked with different computers including overpriced hardwares than myself

[Plug Drugs]

ffs doing some research for you stevey..
the i7 has hyperthreading which games do not use, and having it there when you dont need it actually slows performance, so you want to go with an i5 if you're gaming.

ivy bridge can't be overclocked as much as sandy bridge, but ivy bridge is about 5% more powerful than sandy bridge at the same clock speed.

So i guess my advice wouldnt be much different than marks' advice; find the video card you want, and build everything else around it, and keep the information above in mind when picking a processor.
Do you plan on overclocking your processor? How are you going to keep your system cooled? Do you want a fancy case? etc etc

[steveyos]

NOW YOU KNOW TOO MUCH

it would seem that I know more than most

You should have listened to maks, he worked with different computers including overpriced hardwares than myself

this is what I was waiting for, marks doesn't give me a single link or recommendation and elz tells me to listen to marks, this is what I live for elz as usual does not disappoint

ffs doing some research for you stevey..
the i7 has hyperthreading which games do not use, and having it there when you dont need it actually slows performance, so you want to go with an i5 if you're gaming.

ivy bridge can't be overclocked as much as sandy bridge, but ivy bridge is about 5% more powerful than sandy bridge at the same clock speed.

So i guess my advice wouldnt be much different than marks' advice; find the video card you want, and build everything else around it, and keep the information above in mind when picking a processor.
Do you plan on overclocking your processor? How are you going to keep your system cooled? Do you want a fancy case? etc etc

idk who told you i7's aren't for gaming but they were lying to you

all.... I want..... is...... to know what the newest...... parts.... are........ idk why......... nobody........ can tell... me.......

I'm guessing http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121724 is the card I want I still don't fucking know if there's anything newer and better though I'd start there if god could just give me a sign from heaven telling me if that is the newest card or if there's something both cheaper and newer I'm literally going to kill myself

[steveyos]

plug drugs I appreciate your help if you want to help but you have to understand I need the best of everything including hard drive, and I think this is the tower I want http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147157 I'm gonna stick with air cooling because it's 60F in my room

[juji]

Don't read to Plug Drugs because he pretends to be a smart-ass and never tested to high end computers, only he cares about the high quality drugs while there are illegal chemical recipes could damage health.

However, you should buy this for less than $ 1,300 it's recommended by world class hardcore gamers.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/C...er_Black_Pearl

http://computers.toptenreviews.com/g...rl-review.html

[Plug Drugs]

it's my understanding that nothing out there can even take advantage of the i7's full capabilities, and what is out there right now is better tuned for the i5... But the i7 is most likely going to be a better investment; but who knows? It could be crap in the future

its always going to be a gamble, no one can tell you what the "best" is, because it all depends

[juji]

Also change to NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 4GB 16X

[Plug Drugs]

I5 2500K is the unofficial gold standard for a Gaming Rig CPU and even it when OCed is overkill for just gaming. There is really little difference between i7 2500K and i5 2500K other than money wasted between the two and HT on the i7 which games don't use anyway. From what I have seen in some game benchmarks the i5 2500K out does the i7 2500K all others are a wash funny enough but really the i5 2500K is a Cadillac stop thinking you might get more from an i7 cause all you will get more of is a lighter wallet.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/326220-28-gaming

Ivy Bridge CPUs are about 5% more powerful than Sandy Bridge CPUs at the same clock speed.

i7 CPUs have Hyper Threading which games do not use. Benchmarks have shown that HT actually reduces game performance by 1% or 2% on average, so if you do not use any programs that can take advantage of HT, then buying a Core i7 CPU is not worth it.

Ivy Bridge CPUs do not overclock as well as Sandy Bridge CPUs. IB CPUs generally maxes out at 4.5GHz while Sandy Bridge can go as little further at about 4.8GHz to 5.0GHz. It varies from CPU to CPU and very good cooling is required.

IB CPUs generally consume about 15w - 20w less less power than SB CPUs under load.

IB CPUs have either the Intel HD 2500 / HD 4000 graphic core vs. the Intel HD 2000 / HD 3000 graphic core. For a gaming rig the integrate graphic core doesn't make much difference.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/34...e-sandy-bridge

That is correct, but by the time there is a noticeable difference between i5 and i7 even the i7's on the market today may be kinda old

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/...ure-games.html

[steveyos]

see I can't explain to elz that second life is the equivalent of running metro last light 50 times over on max settings but you can understand that, because you can communicate to other humans, so I think what I'm gonna do is stick with the stuff I posted on page 1 but I need to change the hard drive

[steveyos]

"I don't think there are many games currently available on the market that can really make use of the i7's full capabilities."


second life

[steveyos]

I'm also going to be doing video editing and all sorts of things so the extra whatevers in the i7 work for that, I mean if the i5 is better htan the i7 why is it cheaper

[Plug Drugs]

so as of right now, it has been the contention of the PC community for the past year and a half or so, that an i5 is better for gaming until the games of the future are able to take advantage of hyperthreading, and even when they do, the current I7s may or may not be obsolete by then

[Plug Drugs]

"I don't think there are many games currently available on the market that can really make use of the i7's full capabilities."


second life

does second life use hyperthreading?

[steveyos]

no but what about the other things I do

[Plug Drugs]

I'm also going to be doing video editing and all sorts of things so the extra whatevers in the i7 work for that, I mean if the i5 is better htan the i7 why is it cheaper

research whatever programs you plan on using to see if they use hyper-threading
i.e., google "does ________________ use hyperthreading?"