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    my own personal dancing chimp
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    my own personal dancing chimp
    yeah you definitely planned me calling you out on not knowing the 18th century from the 19th century, youre definitely not just a dumbass
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
    I read a wikipedia article on kant once
    That's just the thing, Jesus isn't just a normal character of history. No one gives two shits weather or not Plato or Socrates actually existed, their wisdom is not wise because THEY said it - but because it is wise.
    The exact opposite is true for characters like Jesus, the wisdom of Jesus is wise because HE SAYS IT IS, because the bible says he is god, because the bible says his mother was a virgin, because the bible says that he died and was resurrected.
    There is absolutely no physical evidence for the existence of Jesus of the bible, no artifacts of any kind, the very best evidence to support the claim that Jesus existed come from the leaders of a new religion that claim 30-40 years after the fact, that he existed. The best non-believer support comes from texts that have dubious claims of authenticity or are written more than 100 years after Jesus supposedly lived.
    The entire doctrine of Christianity rely on idea that the gospel accounts of the miracles of Jesus is true, this is why people believe that Jesus was divine and the son of God. This textual claim is problematic because of the complete lack of contemporary or extra-biblical documentation of his claimed miracles.
    But even if we had multiple, contemporary eyewitness accounts of the miracles of Jesus, it would still not be a good reason to believe that the bible is true - why? because first hand reports of miracles are very common, even in our time. Go to any place in the world and you will find people with claims of miracles performed by mystics, guru’s, yogi’s, etc., miracles on the same level as those described in the bible.
    Compare the claims about Jesus and the modern accounts of people walking on water, healing the sick, raising the dead, levitating, reading minds, foretelling the future, and being born of a virgin – all of these claims that are made about Sathya Sai Baba. We have millions and millions of LIVING eyewitnesses to the "miracles" he performed, his worshipers considered him a living god and thus still worship him now that he is dead. Yet none of that is a reason to believe that any of it is actually true.
    What we are thus told by Christianity is that miracles stories that today surround people like Sai Baba become especially compelling when they are said to have happened in the pre-scientific era, in the middle of a desert, many decades after they supposedly happen.
    So even if I were to accept the writings of Josephus, Titus and Pliny as authentic, accurate and supporting the claim that Jesus existed (which I don't), it would still mean absolutely nothing.
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    i must have ran to the bookstore at 1 in the morning to pick up a copy of both of those huh
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    plug drugs has been in here for 5 minutes reading every last word of that, and coming up with rebuttals, and that in a nutshell is what is wrong with plug drugs (among other things)
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    "i read a wikipedia article on kant once"
    yeah thats funny because

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    sit down bitch
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    didn't read that but the broken link was p funny
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    did you and lisa bond over not knowing how to post a picture on the internet
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    check me out I've got a book with 'basic' in the title I'm way past the 'for dummies' series
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    check me out I've got a book with 'basic' in the title I'm way past the 'for dummies' series
    you're a fucking idiot
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    brb looking for some cliff's notes on amazon
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    awww youre arguing against someone who knows their shit, must be hard being a dumbshit huh :'(
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    i see it perfectly clear and so does everyone else, your shits fucked up lmao you suck at being on th einternet owned
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
    People, humans, have apparently been wandering about this planet fucking stuff up and each other over for about two hundred and fifty thousand years, according to science. Lots of religious folk, Jews, Christians and Muslims believe that’s impossible and that Yahweh/God/Allah created the World, and therefore people, roughly four thousand years ago. It’s a disagreement that no one can prove one way or the other. Science seems to make sense, to intelligent folk at least, this idea of slow evolution, but with huge leaps during moments of crisis seems a possibility, part of me adheres to the theory of evolution, part of me, my more imaginative side, wants the World and life to be crazier, my crazy side leans towards the World and life being orchestrated by an intelligence, or intelligences, not Yahweh/God/Allah, though The Old Testament is batshit crazy and fascinating, my ideas are bigger, grander, more fantastical, I like to think, due to being heavily influenced by Jack Kirby, that huge Space Gods, The Celestials, visited the Earth, millions of years ago, these massive Space Gods gathered together a group of primitive apemen, more akin to the Great Apes than they were modern day Homo Sapiens, through genetic manipulation these Space Gods created three diverse species, The Eternals, The Deviants and The Humans.

    The Humans, live shorter lives and thus reproduce like fucking crazy, overrunning the planet, and basically barely raising their intelligence above that of any other animal. Due to misunderstandings, stupidity and fear The Humans when they came into contact with The Eternals worshipped them as supernatural entities and created grand camp fire stories around these individuals. The Eternals at first tried to explain to The Humans that they were brothers and sisters, all one, and that they weren’t to be worshipped, The Humans didn’t listen, they never do, and so built up mythologies about The Eternals, these mythologies eventually became today’s religions. Naturally The Humans also had dealings with The Deviants who they also believed to be supernatural beings, Giants, Monster, Devils and Demons, The Deviants liked these stupid people, these easily manipulated scared little creatures and they instilled within The Humans the idea of evil being an external cause, that monsters strode the World stalking The Humans. At some point The Humans became too numerous and steps were taken to control the population of this greedy creature, but eventually The Eternals left for the stars, they having outgrown the limitations of the World, and The Deviants went inside the Earth, and maybe The Moon and Mars, they occasional have a little fun with The Humans, there’s occasionally real life tales of meetings with strange supernatural creatures, and vast amounts of people disappear from the face of the planet every year, this is the doing of The Deviants.

    That’s my idea of how The Humans were created, it also explains evolution and religious belief and the belief in supernatural beings. You know it’s just as valid a belief as the Theory of Evolution and Judaism, Christianity and Islam. I will not accept any arguments against. Go argue with a building brick instead.

    Now there’s all types of people, we do love to place people into a variety of categories, I guess it’s easier to hate someone if you can identify why it is you hate them. Now the primary category for people is that of race, there’s this idea we are Caucasians, Negroids or Mongoloids, three races of Humans, naturally a lot of people still buy into this idea of race, even though it seems to me retarded, all Humans belong to one race The Human Race, there’s no separation due to ethnic origins.

    There were apparently long ago several distinctly Human types, Homo Sapiens existed at the same time as Neanderthals, it’s been suggested the reason Neanderthals are extinct is because Homo Sapiens ate, then killed and then raped them, perhaps in a different order but my meaning is clear. We might have carried out this genocide because we considered Neanderthals a competitor, and we couldn’t have that, The Humans still do such things now, fishermen are known to kill dolphins and sharks because they consider them competitors to the fish they are hunting, well harvesting.

    Though people have been around for a very long time, and some things have progressed and some regressed we as a collective don’t seem able to learn from our mistakes, we still have wars and we still allow ourselves to be dictated to by people who hoard all the wealth for themselves, yep some stuff’s changed but the more things change the more they stay the same.

    I suppose you're right, but you must admit the attitude exists. In my experience, it is the dominant attitude amongst most tenured professors. I suppose that's why I reacted as I did. Anyway, here is Nietzsche's (wonderful) description of scholars:
    "When they give themselves out as wise, then do their petty sayings and truths chill me: in their wisdom there is often an odour as if it came from the swamp; and verily, I have even heard the frog croak in it! Clever are they—they have dexterous fingers: what doth my simplicity pretend to beside their multiplicity! All threading and knitting and weaving do their fingers understand: thus do they make the hose of the spirit! Good clockworks are they: only be careful to wind them up properly! Then do they indicate the hour without mistake, and make a modest noise thereby. Like millstones do they work, and like pestles: throw only seed-corn unto them!—they know well how to grind corn small, and make white dust out of it. They keep a sharp eye on one another, and do not trust each other the best. Ingenious in little artifices, they wait for those whose knowledge walketh on lame feet,—like spiders do they wait. I saw them always prepare their poison with precaution; and always did they put glass gloves on their fingers in doing so. They also know how to play with false dice; and so eagerly did I find them playing, that they perspired thereby."
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    marks please enlighten me on Kant's essay The Critique of Pure Reason
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    marks could you please make distinctions between a priori and a posteriori for me? i'm struggling with them
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    look how smart I am I own a copy of introduction to redhat linux that means I'm hacker right
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    oh thats right youre a dumb shit, you dont know shit, sorry
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    shut the fuck up dumbass
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    yeah, fuckin "for dummies", you fucking dumbass
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    why dont you try reading a book marks instead of preaching about your IT fuckin community college education lmao
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    1. IT Guy
    A person who works in a small closet setting up computers and answering help requests all day with at least 3 of the following 5 symptoms...

    1 - Uses Linux
    2 - Believes other employees exists to serve him, not the other way around
    3 - Has told the cofee holder joke to friends/family
    4 - Has unhealthy hatred of Microsoft
    5 - Smug beyond belief

    Typically straight of college. Often was a nerd in high school but not smart enough to major in engineering in college.

    IT Guy - "Can you believe that manager just told me to install Vista? Seriously, who does he think he is?"
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    shutup bitch, i just made you my bitch a second ago how does it feel
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    don;t mind me I'm just winning a computer argument by taking a picture of my copy of "beginner's guide to microsoft office"
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    don;t mind me I'm just winning a computer argument by taking a picture of my copy of "beginner's guide to microsoft office"
    where else are you going to acquire a copy of Kant's critique of pure reason? It's the exact same in "the basic writings of kant" as it is anywhere else youre going to find it you fucking dumbass
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    it's been like n hour since I told him exactly why I was doing this btw and he still keeps playing into it
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    it's been like n hour since I told him exactly why I was doing this btw and he still keeps playing into it
    ahh, have an escape plan, "yeah i was just.. trolling him... guys, i'm not a dumbass"
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    oh neat I just learned that redhat has their own version of ms-paint I'm going to go write an essay about that on rubynet I'm sure everyone will read it
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