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10-14-2013
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Moonmanking steveyos
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10-14-2013
That's just the thing, Jesus isn't just a normal character of history. No one gives two shits weather or not Plato or Socrates actually existed, their wisdom is not wise because THEY said it - but because it is wise.
The exact opposite is true for characters like Jesus, the wisdom of Jesus is wise because HE SAYS IT IS, because the bible says he is god, because the bible says his mother was a virgin, because the bible says that he died and was resurrected.
There is absolutely no physical evidence for the existence of Jesus of the bible, no artifacts of any kind, the very best evidence to support the claim that Jesus existed come from the leaders of a new religion that claim 30-40 years after the fact, that he existed. The best non-believer support comes from texts that have dubious claims of authenticity or are written more than 100 years after Jesus supposedly lived.
The entire doctrine of Christianity rely on idea that the gospel accounts of the miracles of Jesus is true, this is why people believe that Jesus was divine and the son of God. This textual claim is problematic because of the complete lack of contemporary or extra-biblical documentation of his claimed miracles.
But even if we had multiple, contemporary eyewitness accounts of the miracles of Jesus, it would still not be a good reason to believe that the bible is true - why? because first hand reports of miracles are very common, even in our time. Go to any place in the world and you will find people with claims of miracles performed by mystics, guru’s, yogi’s, etc., miracles on the same level as those described in the bible.
Compare the claims about Jesus and the modern accounts of people walking on water, healing the sick, raising the dead, levitating, reading minds, foretelling the future, and being born of a virgin – all of these claims that are made about Sathya Sai Baba. We have millions and millions of LIVING eyewitnesses to the "miracles" he performed, his worshipers considered him a living god and thus still worship him now that he is dead. Yet none of that is a reason to believe that any of it is actually true.
What we are thus told by Christianity is that miracles stories that today surround people like Sai Baba become especially compelling when they are said to have happened in the pre-scientific era, in the middle of a desert, many decades after they supposedly happen.
So even if I were to accept the writings of Josephus, Titus and Pliny as authentic, accurate and supporting the claim that Jesus existed (which I don't), it would still mean absolutely nothing.
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Moonmanking steveyos10-15-2013
i must have ran to the bookstore at 1 in the morning to pick up a copy of both of those huh
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10-15-2013
plug drugs has been in here for 5 minutes reading every last word of that, and coming up with rebuttals, and that in a nutshell is what is wrong with plug drugs (among other things)
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Moonmanking steveyos10-15-2013
"i read a wikipedia article on kant once"
yeah thats funny because
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10-15-2013
didn't read that but the broken link was p funny
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10-15-2013
did you and lisa bond over not knowing how to post a picture on the internet
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10-15-2013
check me out I've got a book with 'basic' in the title I'm way past the 'for dummies' series
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10-15-2013
brb looking for some cliff's notes on amazon
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Moonmanking steveyos10-15-2013
awww youre arguing against someone who knows their shit, must be hard being a dumbshit huh :'(
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Moonmanking steveyos10-15-2013
i see it perfectly clear and so does everyone else, your shits fucked up lmao you suck at being on th einternet owned
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10-15-2013
I suppose you're right, but you must admit the attitude exists. In my experience, it is the dominant attitude amongst most tenured professors. I suppose that's why I reacted as I did. Anyway, here is Nietzsche's (wonderful) description of scholars:
"When they give themselves out as wise, then do their petty sayings and truths chill me: in their wisdom there is often an odour as if it came from the swamp; and verily, I have even heard the frog croak in it! Clever are they—they have dexterous fingers: what doth my simplicity pretend to beside their multiplicity! All threading and knitting and weaving do their fingers understand: thus do they make the hose of the spirit! Good clockworks are they: only be careful to wind them up properly! Then do they indicate the hour without mistake, and make a modest noise thereby. Like millstones do they work, and like pestles: throw only seed-corn unto them!—they know well how to grind corn small, and make white dust out of it. They keep a sharp eye on one another, and do not trust each other the best. Ingenious in little artifices, they wait for those whose knowledge walketh on lame feet,—like spiders do they wait. I saw them always prepare their poison with precaution; and always did they put glass gloves on their fingers in doing so. They also know how to play with false dice; and so eagerly did I find them playing, that they perspired thereby."
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Moonmanking steveyos10-15-2013
marks please enlighten me on Kant's essay The Critique of Pure Reason
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Moonmanking steveyos10-15-2013
marks could you please make distinctions between a priori and a posteriori for me? i'm struggling with them
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10-15-2013
look how smart I am I own a copy of introduction to redhat linux that means I'm hacker right
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Moonmanking steveyos10-15-2013
why dont you try reading a book marks instead of preaching about your IT fuckin community college education lmao
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Moonmanking steveyos10-15-2013
1. IT Guy
A person who works in a small closet setting up computers and answering help requests all day with at least 3 of the following 5 symptoms...
1 - Uses Linux
2 - Believes other employees exists to serve him, not the other way around
3 - Has told the cofee holder joke to friends/family
4 - Has unhealthy hatred of Microsoft
5 - Smug beyond belief
Typically straight of college. Often was a nerd in high school but not smart enough to major in engineering in college.
IT Guy - "Can you believe that manager just told me to install Vista? Seriously, who does he think he is?"
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Moonmanking steveyos10-15-2013
shutup bitch, i just made you my bitch a second ago how does it feel
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10-15-2013
don;t mind me I'm just winning a computer argument by taking a picture of my copy of "beginner's guide to microsoft office"
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Moonmanking steveyos
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10-15-2013
it's been like n hour since I told him exactly why I was doing this btw and he still keeps playing into it
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Moonmanking steveyos
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10-15-2013
oh neat I just learned that redhat has their own version of ms-paint I'm going to go write an essay about that on rubynet I'm sure everyone will read it
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