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[steveyos]

For games, hyperthreading is of no benefit on quad core chips. Dual core i5s and i3s probably do benefit.

Hyperthreading is also of no benefit in general use, as all modern CPUs are already fast enough. The one exception to this is if you are an extreme multitasker and have many apps demanding the CPU's attention simultaneously.

Hyperthreading earns its spurs in video editing, where you will get about a 20% performance improvement.


I like to have 50 things open while playing second life including video editing so it would seem I need the hyperthreading

[steveyos]

plus like I"ve been saying I want the best stuff available that's what I'm trying to get at here I want to spend $3600 on this not a penny less I want the best, the newest, the best and the newest and the best

[steveyos]

plus I mean look at those reviews http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

[Plug Drugs]

I'm also going to be doing video editing and all sorts of things so the extra whatevers in the i7 work for that, I mean if the i5 is better htan the i7 why is it cheaper

the i7 is technically superior, if the software being used can take advantage of it; if it can't however, there is a small dent in performance

[Plug Drugs]

For games, hyperthreading is of no benefit on quad core chips. Dual core i5s and i3s probably do benefit.

Hyperthreading is also of no benefit in general use, as all modern CPUs are already fast enough. The one exception to this is if you are an extreme multitasker and have many apps demanding the CPU's attention simultaneously.

Hyperthreading earns its spurs in video editing, where you will get about a 20% performance improvement.


I like to have 50 things open while playing second life including video editing so it would seem I need the hyperthreading

then get an i7, but be warned, it may be obsolete in the near future, as they're already getting kinda old.

[Plug Drugs]

plus I mean look at those reviews http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

i'm pretty sure i read somewhere that haswell is crap for overclocking, and sandy bridge or ivy bridge will outperform haswell when overclocked and cooled correctly

[steveyos]

so the i5's are newer? it's like the geforces where a 300 is newer and better than my 9800?

I think the fucking motherboards I have on page one aren't even that good, I think I regret not throwing my current desktop out and quitting the internet

[steveyos]

i'm pretty sure i read somewhere that haswell is crap for overclocking, and sandy bridge or ivy bridge will outperform haswell when overclocked and cooled correctly

I would prefer something that doesn't need overclocking since it's super new and already super fast and already runs everything you throw at it for the next five years so it wouldn't really matter since if by then I'm still poor it'll only be because I"m dead

[Plug Drugs]

Cool your jets: Overclockers must pay toll to play on Haswell highway
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...swell-highway/

Intel has taken back the gift of "free” overclocking that it gave hardware tweakers when introducing its Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge processor lines. Geoff Gasior at The Tech Report writes that has Intel confirmed it will lock down the ability on the company's new Haswell generation of CPUs. Users will lose much of the ability to run all but the more-expensive K-series of Haswell CPUs faster than their rated clock frequency in the hope of squeezing more performance out of the processor.

Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge processors allowed for overclocking across their whole lines—not by a huge amount, but by enough to squeeze an extra 400 MHz of compute cycle out of them on the “standard” CPUs. Overclocking could achieve even more on the K-series versions.

An Intel representative told Gasior that since the standard Haswell processors are targeted for business and consumer applications “where overclocking is generally not performed,” access to the additional base clock straps of the Haswell processor are disabled in all but the K-series processors. Those run $20 to $30 more than the standard processors. (There is still a “turbo” multiplier mode available to boost performance of the CPU itself, however.)

[Plug Drugs]

basically, with haswell, they threw out the hard-core computer user's ability to overclock their processor so that the processor will be more powerful by default for your average casual ninny.

[Plug Drugs]

I would prefer something that doesn't need overclocking since it's super new and already super fast and already runs everything you throw at it for the next five years so it wouldn't really matter since if by then I'm still poor it'll only be because I"m dead

that's your choice then; i personally would get a cheap i5 sandy bridge and use the money saved to cool it and overclock the fuck out of it

[steveyos]

"access to the additional base clock straps of the Haswell processor are disabled in all but the K-series processors."


so if I get a K-series doesn't that mean I not only get a newer better cpu but it can also be overclocked like everything else if by some chance in five years I don't want to just buy a new computer?

[Plug Drugs]

right now i'm rockin a 3 year old AMD phenom II x4
it was cheap, it was new at the time, it still holds up to today's standards, and the thing dominates and i love AMD

[Plug Drugs]

"access to the additional base clock straps of the Haswell processor are disabled in all but the K-series processors."


so if I get a K-series doesn't that mean I not only get a newer better cpu but it can also be overclocked like everything else if by some chance in five years I don't want to just buy a new computer?

yeah but the processor is probably designed to never be overclocked, so, who knows
do more research

[Plug Drugs]

you know what, with a budget of more than $3000, go for it

[Plug Drugs]

you'd only be saving like 100 dollars by getting an i5 instead

[juji]

Plug Drugs is like flagerchat of computers, literally researching of hardware products on google

[Plug Drugs]

i personally like to do as much as i can with as little money as possible, so i'd personally try to get an i5, cool it, overclock it, because to me 100 dollars might make the difference between being able to afford another part or not

[Plug Drugs]

Plug Drugs is like flagerchat of computers, literally researching of hardware products on google

where else are you researching these things, honestly

[steveyos]

yeah but you can't run second life in ultra that's the whole point even if you can run metro last light maxed on one monitor and edit hd 100gb videos on the other that you recorded of you playing metro last light in fraps you still can't run second life maxed

[steveyos]

i personally like to do as much as i can with as little money as possible, so i'd personally try to get an i5, cool it, overclock it, because to me 100 dollars might make the difference between being able to afford another part or not

I wanna do as much as I can with $3600

where else are you researching these things, honestly

elz is literally just pressing letters on his keyboard it's what he always does

[Plug Drugs]

stevey, get this and overclock it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...FcZAMgodsRAABQ

[Plug Drugs]

or get this, its only 1 grand:
http://www.thetechgeek.com/intel-cor...x80619i73970x/
and its got EXTREME in the name

[Plug Drugs]

heres the newegg link to that processor in the above post:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116877

according to intel and several of the reviews, it is "the best processor on the market today"
that being said, everyone almost unanimously agrees that even though it is the best, the price is ridiculous

[Plug Drugs]

i mean, the price is just silly really

[Plug Drugs]

if i had $3600 to blow on a computer, i'd buy that processor just for shits and giggles

[Plug Drugs]

i mean, after that, you still have $2600 left which is more than enough to purchase everything else top of the line as well

[Plug Drugs]

and when you open up the box of that processor, you can make holy sounds like you're unveiling the holy grail and it will be totally justified

[steveyos]

yeah but it's already like two years old how can it be better than whatever's the newest thing made in 2013?

[steveyos]

I made a thread on tom's hardware let's see if that myspace faggot knows anything

I'm waiting on some other help elsewhere too I just can't imagine how the best stuff available can't be from this year that just doesn't make sense to me