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    Quote Originally Posted by the 6th amendment
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
    obama violated that. obama is not your friend.
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    I didn't know about extrajudicial execution, that seems terrible, however I have never defended CIA and Obama, I had a complaint against Obama because he wanted to put Chelsea (tranny veteran) and Snowden in jail, not only that... also he did other things which he doesn't respect the constitution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    I didn't know about extrajudicial execution, that seems terrible, however I have never defended CIA and Obama, I had a complaint against Obama because he wanted to put Chelsea (tranny veteran) and Snowden in jail, not only that... also he did other things which he doesn't respect the constitution.
    they released classified state documents to the public
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    they released classified state documents to the public
    he released classified state documents that proved the government is violating the law to the people the government answers to
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    they released classified state documents to the public
    Hiding the murdering of the guards who protect the town and the journalists (nothing is affiliated to insurgent or terrorist organization) without a warning is act of criminal and violated the Rules of Engagement.


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    dude I'm not gay but I'd blow snowden, he gave up his life to expose the rampant abuse we're taking from our government and the american public was all "duh I wonder what kim kardashian is doing" he deserves a break
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    dude I'm not gay but I'd blow snowden, he gave up his life to expose the rampant abuse we're taking from our government and the american public was all "duh I wonder what kim kardashian is doing" he deserves a break
    he didnt expose shit and now he lives in russia. he sold our classified intel to them and thats the only reason they allow him to stay there and talk shit about their country
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    he didnt expose shit and now he lives in russia. he sold our classified intel to them and thats the only reason they allow him to stay there and talk shit about their country
    he proved what everyone already knew. if he'd exposed the same information before 9/11 it would have lead to a revolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    he proved what everyone already knew. if he'd exposed the same information before 9/11 it would have lead to a revolution.
    tell me what he exposed that wouldve lead to any kind of "revolution"
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    tell me what he exposed that wouldve lead to any kind of "revolution"
    tempora collected and analyzed 600 million conversations a day if this had dropped in the 1980's it would have, at very least, ended the administration that authorized it and the agency that executed it
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    it wasn't known, it was speculated. it was blown off paranoid conspiracy theory nonsense. snowden proved an actual conspiracy theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    it wasn't known, it was speculated. it was blown off paranoid conspiracy theory nonsense. snowden proved an actual conspiracy theory.
    people who paid attention or got arrested and fucked over by the government knew. they also told everyone. one more thing a lot of people dont actually know. back when those overnight photo development booths existed, i guess before the mid 90s, they used to have a person pick all of the photos up, take them to an airport, and they would fly them to local development centers a state or two away. a lot of these places kept copies of the photos for the government. everyones personal photos were stored somewhere for government review
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    people who paid attention or got arrested and fucked over by the government knew. they also told everyone. one more thing a lot of people dont actually know. back when those overnight photo development booths existed, i guess before the mid 90s, they used to have a person pick all of the photos up, take them to an airport, and they would fly them to local development centers a state or two away. a lot of these places kept copies of the photos for the government. everyones personal photos were stored somewhere for government review
    where's the proof every 4th amendment lawyer in the country would be fighting to make his career on that case
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    where's the proof every 4th amendment lawyer in the country would be fighting to make his career on that case
    the leaks proved theyre still doing this stuff, did lawyers win court cases?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    the leaks proved theyre still doing this stuff, did lawyers win court cases?
    There a difference between military court and civilan court.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    the leaks proved theyre still doing this stuff, did lawyers win court cases?
    post the proof they could have won with, it's easy for you to say this shit in a post snowden world
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    Besides, NSA violated 4th amendment of the constitution for abusing the spying of everyone due to search and seizure without a warranty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    Besides, NSA violated 4th amendment of the constitution for abusing the spying of everyone due to search and seizure without a warranty.
    and theyre still doing it, so whats the difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    and theyre still doing it, so whats the difference
    With some exceptions, they are doing for Patriot Act to prevent future terrorist attacks.


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    snowden didnt give up his life or freedom, he fled like a puasy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cag. View Post
    snowden didnt give up his life or freedom, he fled like a puasy
    would you want to live in russia I wuldn't
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    he also fled to a country that is arguably one of the worst on the planet for the things he "exposed"
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    he also fled to a country that is arguably one of the worst on the planet for the things he "exposed"
    Snowden knows a country would never work with US governement, if he goes to Mexico, he can be captured for being an idiot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    he also fled to a country that is arguably one of the worst on the planet for the things he "exposed"
    he fled to a country that wouldn't extradite him
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    he fled to a country that wouldn't extradite him
    he flew to china, who 100% would extradite him. but he gave them all the documents he stole so that they would let him go
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    he flew to china, who 100% would extradite him. but he gave them all the documents he stole so that they would let him go
    I'd do the same thing wouldn't you
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    also, if you're in the CIA then you are not in the military. so i looked at the wikipedia.
    Snowden enlisted in the United States Army Reserve on May 7, 2004 and became a Special Forces candidate through its 18X enlistment option.[33] He did not complete the training.[6] After breaking both legs in a training accident,[34] he was discharged on September 28, 2004.[35]

    Snowden was then employed for less than a year in 2005 as a security guard
    you're a dipshit
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    hr could be rotting in a prison, but im sure hes kneedeep in russian pussy. such a sacrifice
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    any of it would be a good start
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    any of it would be a good start
    in terms of the photo thing, my dad was one of the pilots.

    he also did some work for these years ago:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MINARET

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_SHAMROCK

    this massive surveillance program was well known. they even use a dome in a town near me that has a 24/7 civilian clothed military guard around it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
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