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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    I call 'em as I see 'em, the fox news crowd loves to make that same exact argument about the establishment clause
    they may but i don't watch fox news either. lol
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    it wasn't even a compromise. it was some crap that was pushed through, which actually penalizes people without fixing the broken insurance industry in the us.
    all it did was get brain washed left wingers to support obama even more, priming them to vote for him again even though nothing substantial was achieved.

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    how does it not improve things at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    how does it not improve things at all?
    m0nde i am curious why you think this
    I dont think anyone on the left is saying it's an ideal solution or even a good solution but it's better than having no protections against insurance companies at all isn't it?


    and yeah I probably will vote for Obama but only because Mitt Romney doesn't have a shred of integrity in his body. he'd change his gender if it meant getting elected

    I'd rather have McCain tbh, I may not agree with a lot of his politics but I respect the fuck out of him when he stands up for what he believes in. Too bad he turned into a typical neocon drone in 2008. if he ran this year without a fucking retard for a running mate as "the maverick" I'd vote for him. Then again Sarah Palin can't be much dumber than Joe Biden, but at least he keeps his gaffes limited to being only domestically embarrassing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    m0nde i am curious why you think this
    I dont think anyone on the left is saying it's an ideal solution or even a good solution but it's better than having no protections against insurance companies at all isn't it?
    to make the solution that's in place work, the government should have gone after serious insurance reform. they were paid outright to not do that by insurance lobbyists so the plan ended up being a sop to the republicans.

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    the problem with libertarians arguing to deregulate everything and let corporations speak(spend) as loudly as they want is they only look at the letter of the constitution without taking into account the spirit in which it was written, a spirit that undoubtedly would not have wanted our politicians to be corporate puppets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    the problem with libertarians arguing to deregulate everything and let corporations speak(spend) as loudly as they want is they only look at the letter of the constitution without taking into account the spirit in which it was written, a spirit that undoubtedly would not have wanted our politicians to be corporate puppets
    I think you're wrong, I think this is exactly what they had in mind. The founding fathers were all wealthy land owning businessmen, in fact there's strong evidence that the real reason the marched us into rebellion was so they could reneg on their debts to britian.
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    well i'd expect a polsci major to make points that are at least accurate
    it doesn't have to be left wing

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    lol, that's even more hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by m0nde View Post
    lol, that's even more hilarious
    you know what's hilairous??

    me. eating your oreos, bitch!
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    i've heard ramen say she's a polsci major on facebook or here several times, but i've yet to see her make an accurate statement that logically fits any point that's being discussed
    and that is simply dangerous for a prelaw student :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by m0nde View Post
    i've heard ramen say she's a polsci major on facebook or here several times, but i've yet to see her make an accurate statement that logically fits any point that's being discussed
    and that is simply dangerous for a prelaw student :(
    now if i've been to law school already, then you have my permission to panic.

    and maks, yes, article 11 of the treaty of tripoli. it's great, tho i'm not fond of adams, but my boy jefferson betrayed his own ideals once he became president even tho now it's all worked out of course.
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    i was waiting for barryshithead to become fixated on me and start attacking me in other threads
    good job, timmy

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    does australia's national healthcare system cover autism?
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    i didn't mean to attack barryshithead, i was just very happy to hear chaykins being brought up again

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    how can you not like john adams, this is a man who understood liberty and the rule of law

    he also has given us my personal favorite quote of any president which ronald reagan totally fucked up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camoron View Post
    how can you not like john adams, this is a man who understood liberty and the rule of law

    he also has given us my personal favorite quote of any president which ronald reagan totally fucked up
    LMFAO!!! are you fucking SERIOUS?!

    two reasons:

    xyz affair, and the alien and sedition act.
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    John Adams protected a fledgling country from being overtaken by French masters and descending into anarchy
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    ill vote for obama if he promises to raise minimum wage again so when i go to pick up paychecks i think to myself "oh i can live comfortably and have money to spare" instead of feeling like i just received my slave provisions
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    Why is everyone whining like faggots?

    i wish maks should to shut the fuck up, it has nothing to resolve, anyways ramen and m0nde keep whining like fat losers. They are basically browns and smelly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elezzzark View Post
    Why is everyone whining like faggots?

    i wish maks should to shut the fuck up, it has nothing to resolve, anyways ramen and m0nde keep whining like fat losers. They are basically browns and smelly.
    I never should to shut the fuck up, I care way too much about my country to let disenfranchised youths or canadians ruin it.
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    third world retard still living with parents doesn't understand why people would care about their country

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    you could grease up a deaf mexican retard and then release him in the woods

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