PRESIDENT Barack Obama

[Lexi Persimmons]

[Lexi Persimmons]

[juji]

stop posting about politic pictures, they have no talent

[juji]

someone ban this faggot

[Desolation]

[steveyos]

didn't read any posts since my last post

[Desolation]

Barack Obama is my president, and will be the US' president for the next four years. And there's nothing you haters and racists can do about it. Absolutely nothing. <3

[maks]

Barack Obama is my president, and will be the US' president for the next four years. And there's nothing you haters and racists can do about it. Absolutely nothing. <3

Exit polls say Romney's in the lead

[steveyos]

don't care beyond words

[steveyos]

loser

[Desolation]

that poor terrorist trainer

[timmy]

camorororom imagine if your government spent those trillions put in the war on terror on education, medicine and public facilities instead.

in fact i have said on this forum before that if i was president i'd cut military spending by 100 billion a year and in my second term I'd cut a further 50-100 billion a year or more depending on the practical needs of the military. I'd like to get military spending down from 711 billion to 500 billion a year at the end of 8 years. still well above 2002 levels of military spending which were like 330 billion

[timmy]

in fact i have said on this forum before that if i was president i'd cut military spending by 100 billion a year and in my second term I'd cut a further 50-100 billion a year or more depending on the practical needs of the military. I'd like to get military spending down from 711 billion to 500 billion a year at the end of 8 years. still well above 2002 levels of military spending which were like 330 billion

and then what are those soldiers going to do when they come home to no jobs

and then what are those soldiers going to do when they come home to no jobs

most of them have already ciome home.. what are you talking about

most of the military budget is spent on research and development and military equipment and ordnance, not on individual soldiers

we could still afford to field the 68,000 soldiers currently in Afghanistan

barry thinks he is being original and nobody ever considered any of these things

[timmy]

cam you obviously know that these wars and your government are the two major reasons that your country is losing jobs can you stop pretending you like obama and you like the war on terror and the war on drugs

[timmy]

so youre not for taking the troops home? oh okay but what are they gonna do if you cut funding for producing drones looks like more US casualties of war if you put it that way

[steveyos]

oops I keep going to reddit instead of nsfw pardon me folks

[Desolation]

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

[blumpkin blownuts]

if i cut down a bunch of cops with a machine gun & flee should i have due process?
if your guy johnson was president and i point a handgun at him and the secret service is not within arms reach of me, should i have due process?

[maks]

if i cut down a bunch of cops with a machine gun & flee should i have due process?

yes

if your guy johnson was president and i point a handgun at him and the secret service is not within arms reach of me, should i have due process?

yes, assuming you aren't killed by the agents when they shoot you reacting to the immediate threat.

I know the point you're trying to make, and it's stupid. This guy in Yemen didn't have a gun to anyone's head, he didn't have his finger on a nuclear button, he was running a fucking training camp.

Might as well bomb your dealer's house, cause after all there just might be a gun in there somewhere and we're not about to risk some brave police officer's life to apprehend him, right? Lets drop napalm on the OWS protesters, you never know one of those faggots might be armed and it's not worth putting American lives at risk to apprehend them. Lets just give the government the freedom to kill anyone any time they want, I'm sure they'll always have a really good reason.

[blumpkin blownuts]

you're trying to confuse imminent threat with potential for threat
this al-awlaki was actively trying to get americans blown up. before that he was a bona fide enemy combatant -- if it were up to me i would jerk the citizenship of americans who do what he did; then there wouldn't be a reason to freak out over your own rights just because some sworn enemy of his own freedom had his rights taken as a result

[maks]

you're trying to confuse imminent threat with potential for threat

No, you're doing that, with the examples you cited. I'm trying to put things back in perspective. The federal government could just as easily declare any one of us a 'potential threat' and if they don't have to answer to anyone what's to stop them from pulling this shit at home?

this al-awlaki was actively trying to get americans blown up. before that he was a bona fide enemy combatant -- if it were up to me i would jerk the citizenship of americans who do what he did; then there wouldn't be a reason to freak out over your own rights just because some sworn enemy of his own freedom had his rights taken as a result

The only evidence I have of any of this is Obama's word, which means jack shit coming from a president who ignores the constitution whenever it's inconvenient. He's a bigger traitor than the guy he killed, he's done more damage to this country than al-awaki could have done in 100 years.

[blumpkin blownuts]

No, you're doing that, with the examples you cited. I'm trying to put things back in perspective. The federal government could just as easily declare any one of us a 'potential threat' and if they don't have to answer to anyone what's to stop them from pulling this shit at home?

that's exactly what i'm saying - all of us are already a potential threat. that's not enough to strip us of due process, and that's why it hasn't happened yet - not without somebody presenting an imminent threat.

[maks]

that's exactly what i'm saying - all of us are already a potential threat. that's not enough to strip us of due process, and that's why it hasn't happened yet - not without somebody presenting an imminent threat.

on what planet is running a training camp considered an imminent threat?

[maks]

"that crack dealer is going to shoot a rival crack dealer in 3 weeks, lets not arrest him lets just blow up his house after all he's an immediate danger right"

[blumpkin blownuts]

The only evidence I have of any of this is Obama's word, which means jack shit coming from a president who ignores the constitution whenever it's inconvenient. He's a bigger traitor than the guy he killed, he's done more damage to this country than al-awaki could have done in 100 years.

obama doesn't make this shit up, he analyzes reports in the presidential daily briefings.

just like W didn't make up the lie that saddam was stockpiling yellowcake - that was from bad intel cherrypicked by assholes in the pocket of the military-industrial complex

[maks]

obama doesn't make this shit up, he analyzes reports in the presidential daily briefings.

just like W didn't make up the lie that saddam was stockpiling yellowcake - that was from bad intel cherrypicked by assholes in the pocket of the military-industrial complex

The purpose of a trial is to demonstrate to us, the people, the folks in charge, that the government isn't just making shit up. Deprived of that, I'm forced to conclude that Obama is lying and did not have a valid reason to kill my fellow citizen.