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    Do you hate the entire bill of rights or just the first amendment? Also, how much of the first amendment would you like to repeal/ignore? Would you give up your own freedom of speech and of the press in order to give the executive branch the power to persecute whichever group you're bigoted against this week? Would you support attempts by congress to pass a law respecting the establishment of a mandatory state religion, something like an american anglican church?
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    How about if you alt-right cowards stop trying to take away everyone else's liberties and practice your own second amendment rights if you're so goddamn terrified of the muzzies, that's what it's there for and it's worked fine for like 250 years
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    If I were you I wouldn't mention the judiciary, they've declared the muslim ban unconstitutional and unenforceable like 3 or 4 times
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    You should petition the government with a redress of your grievances you're making some really good points itt
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    If I were you I wouldn't mention the judiciary, they've declared the muslim ban unconstitutional and unenforceable like 3 or 4 times
    good thing i don't want to ban islam, i just support the moratorium on immigration

    Do you hate the entire bill of rights or just the first amendment? Also, how much of the first amendment would you like to repeal/ignore? Would you give up your own freedom of speech and of the press in order to give the executive branch the power to persecute whichever group you're bigoted against this week? Would you support attempts by congress to pass a law respecting the establishment of a mandatory state religion, something like an american anglican church?
    i'm not against the bill of rights in any way, donald trump hasn't infringed on the MSM's freedom of press hes simply avoided them nor has he made any attempt to enact a state religion. i support the right to practice whatever religion you want and i'm just as critical of christianity and judaism as i am of islam and all religious institutions. i understand the community but what kind of divinity comes from some other mans mouth? the travel ban is a matter of national security to safeguard us from radical islam.

    How about if you alt-right cowards stop trying to take away everyone else's liberties and practice your own second amendment rights if you're so goddamn terrified of the muzzies, that's what it's there for and it's worked fine for like 250 years
    not only am i not alt right im not in favor of any ethnostate or division of this nation. i have no problem with the muslims in america. islam isn't a specific race and people practice it all over the world. i'm allowed to be critical of any religion i want- doesn't mean i want to control their lives. im in support of law and order and against open borders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    good thing i don't want to ban islam, i just support the moratorium on immigration
    You support a law whgich has been struck down as unconstitutional more than once, so I ask you again, what other parts of the bill of rights do you oppose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Franklin
    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
    A founding father just called you a pussy
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    Quote Originally Posted by A staunch supporter of a republican president
    The world is scary! Big government, please, be my daddy and protect me from the bad evil extremists!
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    really lonnie, you're just gonna yield to me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    really lonnie, you're just gonna yield to me?
    lol either of us can take as long as we need to reply- these emotional trolling techniques don't affect me. on the other hand I had to bait you each time in order to get you to make any real point (thank you by the way for eventually doing so).

    more comms incoming
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    You support a law whgich has been struck down as unconstitutional more than once, so I ask you again, what other parts of the bill of rights do you oppose?
    immigration in this nation has become a joke- loopholes facilitate drug and human trafficking. until stronger immigration laws are passed i support the moratorium [a temporary prohibition of an activity] of travel from nations that could harbor radical muslims.

    Originally Posted by Ben Franklin
    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
    A founding father just called you a pussy
    no american is being denied their civil liberties. trump would be denying suspicious foreigners of our nations civil liberties- for our nations own safety. you already made me spell out what laws are and why donald trump could enforce an executive order restricting immigration- signed into law by a founding father lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    immigration in this nation has become a joke- loopholes facilitate drug and human trafficking. until stronger immigration laws are passed i support the moratorium [a temporary prohibition of an activity] of travel from nations that could harbor radical muslims.


    no american is being denied their civil liberties. trump would be denying suspicious foreigners of our nations civil liberties- for our nations own safety. you already made me spell out what laws are and why donald trump could enforce an executive order restricting immigration- signed into law by a founding father lol
    Oh ok so this is the one time it's ok to let the government violate the constitution, becauise you agree with their intent, well it's a good thing that's not a very slippery slope that essentially invalidates the bill of rights as a whole
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    Oh ok so this is the one time it's ok to let the government violate the constitution, becauise you agree with their intent, well it's a good thing that's not a very slippery slope that essentially invalidates the bill of rights as a whole
    where's the quote where john adams on his death bed says "I regret passing the alien and sedition acts, i rather see the nation fall apart under uncontrolled immigration"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    where's the quote where john adams on his death bed says "I regret passing the alien and sedition acts, i rather see the nation fall apart under uncontrolled immigration"
    I don't give a fuck what john adams personally believed, it's his contribution to the constitutional convention voted on and ratified by the states that is the law of the land
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    I don't give a fuck what john adams personally believed, it's his contribution to the constitutional convention voted on and ratified by the states that is the law of the land
    yeah and the laws john adams passed are the law of the land too lol. that's my point, the constitution lets the federal government pass laws. if trump is following the law i really don't see the issue lmao.

    you can disagree with the law, i respect that, but that one was passed by a framer- you really don't think he had the nations best interests in mind? you're really gonna defend radical islam?
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    Every time I argue with you, you insist that you trolled me into doing it, I'm sure that's the case it's not like me to get dragged into stuff like this, unless you count that period between 2006 and 2018 when I argued with everyone all the time non stop
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    Every time I argue with you, you insist that you trolled me into doing it, I'm sure that's the case it's not like me to get dragged into stuff like this, unless you count that period between 2006 and 2018 when I argued with everyone all the time non stop
    i maybe said that once so far- and only speculatively. you didn't do anything but say donald trump talks dumb until i repeatedly asked you NOT to yield to me. i wasn't trolling- i want to debate!
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    what a retard that dude is holy shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    what a retard that dude is holy shit
    you should post some impersonations of him i would love that!
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    There is no point to have debating someone who is slave of Trump because the slaves as Trump Supporters always defend Trump doesnt matter what it costs


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    I'll kill myself live on cam as soon as there's proof I literlaly promise, I will sincerely kill myself as soon as I see elz's computer playing arma 3 maxed with all nvidia exclusive graphics
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    what a retard that dude is holy shit
    Trump Supporters have mental issues, no doubt. Take a look at this:




    How the Trump Supporters as slaves are kneeling to Trump as God King


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    I'll kill myself live on cam as soon as there's proof I literlaly promise, I will sincerely kill myself as soon as I see elz's computer playing arma 3 maxed with all nvidia exclusive graphics
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    trump talks dumb because he is dumb, he's shocked that anyone is challanging him on this shit he thought he was going to walk into the white house and do whatever the hell he wanted like he was idi amin
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    u just can't compete with me. sorry if this is because of a language barrier or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    u just can't compete with me. sorry if this is because of a language barrier or something.
    Thanks for taking over for plug drugs while he's away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendy <3 View Post
    Thanks for taking over for plug drugs while he's away
    plug drugs is an addict i don't ever want to talk to him
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    There is a simple question for you:


    Is Trump a stupid?


    You have only 2 viable choices: A) Yes B) No


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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    There is a simple question for you:


    Is Trump a stupid?


    You have only 2 viable choices: A) Yes B) No
    no trump isn't 'stupid'

    and i don't think you can say any elected official is 'stupid' even if you don't like them. i could say an aspect of their personality or policy is stupid but do you really think someone who is entirely 'stupid' would ever find success in any aspect of life? this is part of the language barrier problem we have, you can't word your beliefs properly (or at least i suspect because i don't think you are 'stupid').

    but anyway if this is some sort of logic trap please continue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    no trump isn't 'stupid'

    and i don't think you can say any elected official is 'stupid' even if you don't like them. i could say an aspect of their personality or policy is stupid but do you really think someone who is entirely 'stupid' would ever find success in any aspect of life? this is part of the language barrier problem we have, you can't word your beliefs properly (or at least i suspect because i don't think you are 'stupid').

    but anyway if this is some sort of logic trap please continue


    Well, I win this argument because he makes a lot of mistakes and he wont learn about his errors. Everyone knows, if you say he is not stupid is very illogical, you are indeed a slave of Trump who constantly defends Trump.

    If you say "Yes" you could win this argument.


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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    Well, I win this argument because he makes a lot of mistakes and he wont learn about his errors. Everyone knows, if you say he is not stupid is very illogical, you are indeed a slave of Trump who constantly defends Trump.

    If you say "Yes" you could win this argument.
    makes a lot of errors, would you like to share evidence of this claim so i can provide my counter point? you won't properly debate me you just want to say i'm wrong. just because you say so doesn't make it so- we need to discuss this further.

    Quote Originally Posted by lina
    i could say an aspect of their personality or policy is stupid
    implying i want you to be specific

    Quote Originally Posted by lina
    but do you really think someone who is entirely 'stupid' would ever find success in any aspect of life?
    thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by lina
    but anyway if this is some sort of logic trap please continue
    your logic was so flawed you didn't even have to spring the trap before i snatched victory.

    Quote Originally Posted by juji
    Also don't use "language barrier problem" as your excuse, including your wall of text that nobody reads is considered another excuse.
    i'll do what i want just like you will. your broken english is vauge and leaves me guessing at the full scope of your point. meanwhile ive typed my walls of text, now i can quickly boil them down if you care to broach past topics.
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    plug drugs is a stupid can we all agree on that?
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