Lisa, come look at something I wrote and posted at a physics forum

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

No I know, you're cool, I'm only arguing with DP right now

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Ok I'll shut up because now I'm getting caught up in it lol

the half assed push gravity theory plug drugs "came up" with has been dis proven over and over again, he wants something in his life to hold on too to make himself feel better than someone , ,anyone because in reiality he's a fat cart pushing peice of shit

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Originally Posted by Lisa

What were you arguing about? They actually knew what they were talking about so why were you trying to argue a theory you made up yourself about a subject you have not much idea about with people who knew exactly what they were talking about and were trying to explain it to you? You have actually listened and asked questions and walked away wiser but instead you tried to argue?

It takes work to be an intellectual plug drugs and I don't see you putting in the actual work.

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At the end of the thread, people didn't - they were having to dig around for answers themselves to try and keep up and they took the route of trying to make it personal.
A few of the guys had been giving me mathematical explanations, and they were great, why can't I just sit in a forum with them all day?

ya at the end o the thread where they locked it when you could not do simple calculus to prove anything because you are an acutal cart pushing retard, and they knew you where on to a major breakthough and wanted to stop the converstion so they could publish a sci paper that finally proved push graivity

it's not cause your a fucking FAT RETAREDED DRUG ADDICT MORON WHO CAN HARDLY ADD AND SUBTRACT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU NEED TO GIVE TO YOUR METH DEALER

ugh fat meth heads trying to do sceince on the interent really boils my stew

lock this thread

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Originally Posted by Autistic Spectrum

the half assed push gravity theory plug drugs "came up" with has been dis proven over and over again, he wants something in his life to hold on too to make himself feel better than someone , ,anyone because in reiality he's a fat cart pushing peice of shit

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He didn't actually come up or talk about push gravity, he showed a picture of two circles, one being what was called as an "object" and the other smaller one as a "particle" with arrows pointing at them and tried to say the arrows represented radiation affecting the particle which I have no idea what it supposed to show or mean or have anything to do with anything but so,e other guy said "that looks like push gravity" and then just went with that, which to be fair in the context was as good a guess as any as to what he trying to talk about but actually I just looked at his first post again and I think he was trying to say that electromagnetism could work in the same way as gravity does.

Lol @ dp

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Originally Posted by Autistic Spectrum

the half assed push gravity theory plug drugs "came up" with has been dis proven over and over again, he wants something in his life to hold on too to make himself feel better than someone , ,anyone because in reiality he's a fat cart pushing peice of shit

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I don't think I came up with anything; what I wanted was for them to collaborate with me on something and watch it snowball, but yeah that didn't happen

that's what his theory is lisa look that shit up it's a retards view of push gravity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage...n#Basic_theory

path of least resttaince man,,, you know how when you want an 8ball of glass and you are like 100 bucks short, and your like grandma's purse is all the way upstairs,, sometimes it's just easier to yell to your grand ma to bring her purse down to hte basement,,, path of least resteince bro,,,,,, METH

Yeah well I guess it is a bit similar, it's not stupid though, it's not correct but it's not stupid

But basically what he did I think was come up with a concept of how gravity works, get that a bit wrong, and then try to apply the already wrong theory about gravity to electromagnetism... Or something like that to be honest it's not entirely clear to me what he did there at all to come up with that lol

WATER IS WET BUT WHAT IF WATER WAS DRY???

time to make a scienec thread METH

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He didn't actually come up or talk about push gravity, he showed a picture of two circles, one being what was called as an "object" and the other smaller one as a "particle" with arrows pointing at them and tried to say the arrows represented radiation affecting the particle which I have no idea what it supposed to show or mean or have anything to do with anything but so,e other guy said "that looks like push gravity" and then just went with that, which to be fair in the context was as good a guess as any as to what he trying to talk about but actually I just looked at his first post again and I think he was trying to say that electromagnetism could work in the same way as gravity does.

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Incidentally it does look like push gravity
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...c/Pushing5.png

and Farraday's "Lines of Force" look a lot like the tensors describing fluidic space in the various solutions for the GR EFE
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Bgpa7jFV1X...tic+fields.jpg

If that thread wasn't closed I wish I could go back and mention Zitterbewegung as a contributor to free fall

path of least resistance: drugs up anus

Like, I was trying to make fucking diagrams for them with microsoft fucking paint, not the good ms paint either, the shitty shittified one

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Originally Posted by Autistic Spectrum

that's what his theory is lisa look that shit up it's a retards view of push gravity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage...n#Basic_theory

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you're assuming 'magical attraction' when you shouldn't.
I'm right, it's just counter-intuitive so people think immediately think it's wrong.

I don't know what else to say, I mean, I put it all out there, it all makes sense, then they told me to write up an equation with zero help

I know I'm right because I've been thinking about it for 10 fucking years and this is the only way that makes sense

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

Incidentally it does look like push gravity
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...c/Pushing5.png

and Farraday's "Lines of Force" look a lot like the tensors describing fluidic space in the various solutions for the GR EFE
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Bgpa7jFV1X...tic+fields.jpg

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Yeah but I know you weren't even talking about push gravity

However there was a lot in what you said that wasn't true or accurate but it's been covered already, you need to go back to drawing board.

Can you tell me how "strong force" plays into your theory? If you are going to bundle all the forces together surely that and "weak force" should get a mention

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your a huge fag whereever you go and the problem with that is that your always there

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why don't you give your own opinion on the subject DP? Take a fucking shot: gravity, give it to us, we're open

Dp is making me laugh,,, METH

"blah blah blah, wait a minute.. fluidic space, lines of force, relativistic mass, Zitterbewegung of quarks causing them to enter free fall, holy shit, this is the same stuff plug drugs said"

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Yeah but I know you weren't even talking about push gravity

However there was a lot in what you said that wasn't true or accurate but it's been covered already, you need to go back to drawing board.

Can you tell me how "strong force" plays into your theory? If you are going to bundle all the forces together surely that and "weak force" should get a mention

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Push gravity was exactly what I was talking about; I didn't know there was a name for it until they told me

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

Push gravity was exactly what I was talking about; I didn't know there was a name for it until they told me

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But you were relating it to electromagnetism?

Yeah look I don't know what you did there but it wasn't correct.

I want you to come back and give me an explanation of the 4 basic forces, gravity, electromagnetism and strong and weak force and how they are different.

I don't know 'proper' nomenclature and notation though, which is unfortunate because the ones who do know it sit around and don't do anything with it

Neither do I but if that is the case for you you shouldn't try to use it especially out of context. If you can't explain something in layman's terms then I've always said that you don't understand it yourself. I met guys at uni who would regurgitate a bunch of shit from a text book at you to try and impress you and make them look intelligent, I would always ask them what that actually means in layman's terms and not once was one of those who had did that were able to. I could always tell they were just trying it on. Somone who actually knows and grasps the concept can explain it in laymen's or very simple terms or analogies, if they can't then basically all they showed me was that there were as intelligent as a parrot.

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But you were relating it to electromagnetism?

Yeah look I don't know what you did there but it wasn't correct.

I want you to come back and give me an explanation of the 4 basic forces, gravity, electromagnetism and strong and weak force and how they are different.

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I was entertaining the possibility that + and - do not attract: + and + repel and so do - and - , and that's it. The reason + will stay alongside - is because the region of space that makes up where the - resides is a region of space it isn't experiencing repulsion from.

This is why 3 quarks stay together and also why electrons stay with protons. Things will separate if pushed together forcefully, usually don't due to the separation in scale between them.

I know I'm right, and I'm pretty sure a lot of existing math on the subject says the same thing. But right there is where most people's understanding drops off, so trying to give someone a new idea is going to lead to a lot of headaches and shouting

The second you tell someone + and - don't attract, question marks begin appearing above everyone's head. Then when you go on to say gravity doesn't attract either, the question marks turn into frowns and people stop listening

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Neither do I but if that is the case for you you shouldn't try to use it especially out of context. If you can't explain something in layman's terms then I've always said that you don't understand it yourself. I met guys at uni who would regurgitate a bunch of shit from a text book at you to try and impress you and make them look intelligent, I would always ask them what that actually means in layman's terms and not once was one of those who had did that were able to. I could always tell they were just trying it on. Somone who actually knows and grasps the concept can explain it in laymen's or very simple terms or analogies, if they can't then basically all they showed me was that there were as intelligent as a parrot.

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I know exactly what you mean. There's a good quote by Machiavelli "a man who seeks to make a profession out of goodness finds his ruin rather than his preservation, as he is among so many who are not good". Money makes everything way too easy for everybody and turns them into whiney entitled children, like the guys you're talking about who can recite passages from a textbook but couldn't give you a different way of wording it

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I was entertaining the possibility that + and - do not attract: + and + repel and so do - and - , and that's it. The reason + will stay alongside - is because the region of space that makes up where the - resides is a region of space it isn't experiencing repulsion from.

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Well that's not really correct. I think strong force has something to do with something here, well it does for protons , it was keeps the neutrons and protons together... As for electrons well the strong force is actually the strongest force of all 4 forces but it only travels a minuscule space and for a minis clue time that it couldn't reach or affect a electron and these are called mesons. It's all very complicated.

Last time we did photons and this time it's mesons.

Also, the idea of an electric universe isn't new.

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Well that's not really correct. I think strong force has something to do with something here, well it does for protons , it was keeps the neutrons and protons together... As for electrons well the strong force is actually the strongest force of all 4 forces but it only travels a minuscule space and for a minis clue time that it couldn't reach or affect a electron and these are called mesons. It's all very complicated.

Last time we did photons and this time it's mesons.

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Isn't that just another way of saying that massive separations in scale prevent electrons from knocking loose quarks?

So are you talking about gravity, electromagnetism or strong force or weak force?

Because you can't use the same theory for all of them.

I don't think either of us knows enough about quarks and bosons to really give this a good go.

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Originally Posted by Plug Drugs

Isn't that just another way of saying that massive separations in scale prevent electrons from knocking loose quarks?

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Scale does play a HUGE part in how the forces work

Think about it this way: the electron can effect the down quark with repulsion, but the two up quarks just follow the down quark, and the quarks never get knocked loose because they're about as close as physically possible for 3 particles to be to each other.