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What about talking about the enormous amount of wealth hemorrhaging from our nation into the slush funds of post national authorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by maks
Billions could be invested into future agro tech, allowing the localization of food production nation wide
so lets throw the employers and their children into concentration camps, no jobs no illegals, problem solvedQuote:
Originally Posted by clay
If there was a market for that someone would be exploiting it, that's how capitalism worksQuote:
Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg
if you're suggesting the government should be investing billions, they shouldn't, fuck you.
Doesn't bother me just calling you outQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
What about coal oil and gold industries killing scientists who research these new technologies?Quote:
Originally Posted by maks
Can you explain what you mean by no jobs? Unemployment is at an all time low for many demographicsQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
what about the alien lizard people living in alex jones' ass crack, they're about as relevant to agriculture as the coal oil and gold industries areQuote:
Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg
most of the current illegal immigrants are coming from places south of mexico. theyre walking, taking buses, and then most of them at some point are getting into the back of 18 wheelers.
you think 2 months of that is less torturous to a child than 2 months of being in what's basically a daycare? the parents are making the extremely poor decision to put their kid through all of that, not anyone else. we don't give them a pass once they hit the border just because they have a kid. if someone comes here with an actual asylum case, let's hear it. practically every person coming here with a child in tow is coming because obama said if you have a kid, come on in. domestic violence isnt a fucking asylum qualifier. if you got hit in honduras, you're going to get hit here. you are not an albino from zaire who will possibly be murdered there, and then won't be murdered here. you are not a queer from russia who will get beaten there, and probably won't get beaten here.
why in the world should we be accepting immigrants who are dumb enough to put their children in a position where they have a 60% chance of being raped, beaten, or murdered? we dont want morons like that, let them walk back home
if you prosecute people for hiring illegals they will not hire illegals. if there are no jobs for illegals they will stop illegaling. lets throw some white people in jail for a change, they broke the law didn't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg
people get prosecuted for it all the time. but the cost/benefit analysis a lot of people do in their own minds leads them to keep hiring illegals. same reason people steal from walmart, do drugs, rape, murder, cheat on their taxes, whateverQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
if we prosecuted the employers, threw them in jail, shut down their operations, there would be no one to hire illegals and they'd stop sneaking in, problem solved no wall necessary just enforcement of existing law. History has shown the illegals don't shed a tear over deportation, it's an inconvenience but they just pay another coyote to bring them right back in. I'll bet some rich agriculture mogul would feel the pain if you shut down his business and sent him to prison, though. probably wouldn't take more than a couple of high profile cases to shut the whole thing down.Quote:
Originally Posted by clay
i'd also like to point out that you are correct about the slave labor market, canada does it too. you go up there and all of the low skilled workers are from what used to be india.
but those people arent going around in mass numbers robbing, murdering, dealing, and causing chaos. the current culture of many south american countries, which the populace accepts, is disgusting. they want to move here to avoid cartel crime but they bring the crime with them because it's within their own attitudes. these people have been given generations to affect change in their own countries and they dont bother
hiring illegals saves enough to easily pay the fines when they get snagged, and they go right back to what they were doing. take their business away and throw them and their children in concentration camps. send a message. white people scare easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by clay
happens all the time, ive seen it happen. if the company gets shut down, another moves into that spot and does the same thing. our government resources are being decimated by the illegals moving here and sucking them dry. if you come here illegally, get a job, work, pay taxes, dont commit crimes: awesome. you should be fast tracked to legal immigrant status if you can prove these things. if you come here illegally and use government resources to prop up your 14 child family, get the fuck out. it's not anyones job to support all of these fucking roaches breeding like crazy. we cant help that we have natural citizens doing it, thats our burden as a society. it is not our burden to accept other nations burdensQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
to make this more microrelevant, how many times have you been hit and run by an illegal immigrant, mark?
There are 3 reasons why the assholes who dont understand capitalist economy and gov opportunites:
- Trump supporters complain "Immigrants steal the jobs" this is the pathetic excuse because they dont have own business. It's up to private companies decide to hire whom.
- Federal Governement won't hire americans who used the drugs.
- Lazy americans like steveyos who born in the US are hurting the economy and eventually they will bring new technology to replace human workers.
if a few thousand people can decimate our government resources than those resources are badly run or underfunded and need to be revamped or eliminated. most of them ought to be eliminated.Quote:
Originally Posted by clay
exactly zero, and I live like 10 minutes from a sanctuary cityQuote:
Originally Posted by clay
It's like we're in a river of shit, in a boat with a hole in it, and everyone is arguing about whether we should fix the hole or grab the buckets and bail, and I'm the only guy who's like "hey assholes, the dock is right there, lets just get out"
this is a really pathetic attempt at pushing aside peoples issue with illegal immigration. i dont care very much about the "job taking" aspect. i care about the crime, the cultural shift toward the acceptance of that crime, the sucking dry of government resources, and other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by juji
if you have a town of 5000 people and the local government is just making enough off taxes, what happens when illegals come? say 1000 mexicans show up because of a new factory. 500 pay taxes, 500 dont. now you have a town that can support 5500 people, but is populated by 6000 people. not enough cops for the amount of crime, not enough hospital space, the roads turn to shit. the roads will get fucked up 10% quicker. that means if this little rural town paved their roads every 6 years, now you get to drive on a shitty ass road for 6 months longer because of MEXICANS
ive been hit by 4. ive had illegals have gun fights in front of me, fist fights, knife fights. when i wsa a kid there were some immigrants running from the border patrol through my back yard, they stopped to have a fist fight, and then got caught by the agents. thats how moronic these people are. they are successfully evading capture and then they have to fight eachother. i saw a mexican run a car off the road and shoot it up because he didnt like that his ex girlfriend(of 2 weeks) was at a club with 4 guys. i chased him while getting shot at until he decided to drive in front of an oncoming train. after all that, the mexican slut decided she wasnt going to talk to the police. they LOVE being abused and go back to it over and over. i dont want this shit to grow and growQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
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Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg
Neither my problem, it's up to ICE. I disagree about considering american ourselves with this problem, if there a problem is mine, I would suggest them to catch the racists and the neo-nazis are supposed to be in the prison because they are considered as enemies of the united states for example: Nazi Germany and The Confederates.
Also death penalty is acceptable to reduce the population since they are not real humans.
How much of your tax money goes to supporting people like stevey, natural born citizens who've never contributed anything at all? what percentage of illegals are a better deal for us than he is? high 90's?
Translation: black people, except one who is running.Quote:
Originally Posted by clay
elezark left mexico because mexico sucks. there is nothing wrong with the land or placement of mexico, so it is the people. the people are what sucks about these countries. what's wrong with puerto rico, we practically consider it a paradise. the fucking people are what's wrong
the difference is that we literally cant do anything about steveys. we can stop steveys from other countries coming here, thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
I'll tell you what I'd tell a guy from compton complaining about the bloods and crips, fucking move.Quote:
Originally Posted by clay
unlike the wetbacks, i would prefer to stay where i live and make it a better place. if i have to hunt down a fucking beaner and run him over with my car to do that, i willQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
we can stop pretending that being born here makes one special somehow, open the borders, end welfare, and let anyone who wants to take a shot sink or swim on their own. when stevey starves to death on the street the problem takes care of itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by clay
that works really well in africaQuote:
Originally Posted by maks
I'd prefer if allison hannigan came over and blew me once a night, instead I date yuppies in their early 30's, because I live in the real worldQuote:
Originally Posted by clay
africa is a big place and some of the countries there are thriving, you're going to have to be more specificQuote:
Originally Posted by clay
I agree Mexico sucks because americans are bringing guns to Mexico to sell there. Eventually when I become an american, I get funds and I may hire private security to protect my company in Mexico.Quote:
Originally Posted by clay
and yet i have run over mexicans with my car before. you thought that was hyperbole.
im pretty sure mexico sucks because every level of government is corrupt, straight down to the voters. the guns are just an accessory to the problemQuote:
Originally Posted by juji
the american drug war literally created the cartels, but I'm sure that more government is the solution, it's worked so well in the pastQuote:
Originally Posted by juji
Like someone would shoot the teacher and their mates in the school. Most of them aren't children of illegal immigrants.Quote:
Originally Posted by clay
The problem with Mexico is the war on drugs lol. We've opened up a nice little black market with cartels. That's why people are leaving. End the war of drugs by decriminalizing
And build bigger wall. Lmao
the cartels were already there, but the american war on drugs pumped money into them.
the same happened with prohibition. the mobs already existed, our government just gave them a brand new source of income. and then our government waged war on them. enough of a war that they decided to change how they operated. mexico doesn't do shit to the cartels.