Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
that study doesnt compare coffee drinkers and alcohol drinkers, it compares moderate alcohol drinkers to non-drinkers and heavy drinkers. i also rly have to question the methodology, all they did was get a bunch of old ppls names and drinking status then wait for them to die so they could look at their death certificates. the ppl who were heavy drinkers at the age of 55 could easily have stopped at the age of 56, someone who was a heavy drinker at age 54 could easily have abstained at age 55 and been listed as an abstainer, etc. this study is shit, and theres also this pretty enormous qualifier tucked in:
yeah that doesn't matter the numbers are large enough where a few heavy drinker becoming abstainers or abstainers becoming heavy drinkers here or there doesnt really put a dent in these percentages:

The sample of those who were studied included individuals between ages 55 and 65 who had had any kind of outpatient care in the previous three years. The 1,824 participants were followed for 20 years. One drawback of the sample: a disproportionate number, 63%, were men. Just over 69% of the abstainers died during the 20 years, 60% of the heavy drinkers died and only 41% of moderate drinkers died.