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    people who drink coffee tend to live shorter, people who drink alcohol tend to live longer 
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    this has been a Healthy Tips & Tricks with doctor plug drugs
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    people who meet at the tip are more likely to contract SUPER AIDS
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    correlation is not causation, also wheres the study moron
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    People who shove pills up their ass are 10X more likely to put other objects up their ass.
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    people who fall in love with lisa over the internet are 10 times more likely to become a pariah to online communities
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    They also discover they are sexually attracted to little boys.
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    correlation is not causation, also wheres the study moron
    pretty sure it has to do with alcohol's dilation of blood vessels promoting good heart health and caffeine's damaging effect on the vascular system, its just science doli. Here's an abstract:
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...10.01286.x/pdf
    oh youve got to register to view it, oh those fucking jews, well here is some schmuck internet journalist's flawed and biased take on the study:
    http://content.time.com/time/magazin...017200,00.html

    and as for the coffee thing i dont think thats very true, for every study saying that coffee is bad for you there's one more that says its good for you
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    that study doesnt compare coffee drinkers and alcohol drinkers, it compares moderate alcohol drinkers to non-drinkers and heavy drinkers. i also rly have to question the methodology, all they did was get a bunch of old ppls names and drinking status then wait for them to die so they could look at their death certificates. the ppl who were heavy drinkers at the age of 55 could easily have stopped at the age of 56, someone who was a heavy drinker at age 54 could easily have abstained at age 55 and been listed as an abstainer, etc. this study is shit, and theres also this pretty enormous qualifier tucked in:

    A model controlling for former problem drinking status, existing health problems, and key sociodemographic and social-behavioral factors, as well as for age and gender, substantially reduced the mortality effect for abstainers compared to moderate drinkers
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    in short no, i rly dont think anyone should pick up "moderate drinking" so that they can live longer
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    The guy accross the street died from liver failure. He drank a pint of vodka everyday
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    and he was cag's dad, rip cag's father
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    [bows head in silense]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    that study doesnt compare coffee drinkers and alcohol drinkers, it compares moderate alcohol drinkers to non-drinkers and heavy drinkers. i also rly have to question the methodology, all they did was get a bunch of old ppls names and drinking status then wait for them to die so they could look at their death certificates. the ppl who were heavy drinkers at the age of 55 could easily have stopped at the age of 56, someone who was a heavy drinker at age 54 could easily have abstained at age 55 and been listed as an abstainer, etc. this study is shit, and theres also this pretty enormous qualifier tucked in:
    yeah that doesn't matter the numbers are large enough where a few heavy drinker becoming abstainers or abstainers becoming heavy drinkers here or there doesnt really put a dent in these percentages:

    The sample of those who were studied included individuals between ages 55 and 65 who had had any kind of outpatient care in the previous three years. The 1,824 participants were followed for 20 years. One drawback of the sample: a disproportionate number, 63%, were men. Just over 69% of the abstainers died during the 20 years, 60% of the heavy drinkers died and only 41% of moderate drinkers died.
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    95% of the time i don't read what plug drugs posts
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    you could say that participants of the study who already had serious health problems to begin with would be less likely to drink, I'd take that as a valid counter-argument
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    i put booz in my coffee, so i will live to be 100
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    Doli and dp pretty smug mocking the dead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
    yeah that doesn't matter the numbers are large enough where a few heavy drinker becoming abstainers or abstainers becoming heavy drinkers here or there doesnt really put a dent in these percentages:
    thats not true. prior drinking history is a huge thign that they didnt even take into account
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    cag is basically living on borrowed time,
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    I was in a good mood today until reading this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    thats not true. prior drinking history is a huge thign that they didnt even take into account
    like that even matters, i think a bigger flaw is the fact that someone with cancer probably isnt going to be hitting the bottle.
    Also, cancer is the leading cause of death in that age group
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    actually i take that back, 65+ the biggest killer is heart disease, and alcohol can in theory protect someone from heart disease, its just science doli
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    i am going to live forever its science
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    when im on speed, drinking alcohol can alleviate the body load, lower my high heart rate, and virtually eliminate the stimulant comedown/crash, as long as i'm drinking lots of water and staying hydrated as well. That's all the proof i need that alcohol is healthy for you. I'm a huge proponent of poly-drug use. If youre gonna do drugs you might as well just speedball it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
    actually i take that back, 65+ the biggest killer is heart disease, and alcohol can in theory protect someone from heart disease, its just science doli
    Science is based on fact, not theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDucat View Post
    Science is based on fact, not theories.
    okay is einstein's theory of relativity not science then?
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    its jew trickery
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    You can't compare your retarded theories to what you read off a brief history of time. Remenmber, you are a cart pushing stuffy who shoves heroine and speed up his ass
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