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    the reason i think "mainstream" bands usually sound better than underground bands (or whatever you want to call them) is because if you're in a band, you'd almost need that guarantee of a record deal before you can devote yourself to the time it takes to write good material.

    Picture yourself in a band member's situation: usually a band's first one or two albums suck - is that because they eventually "got better" later on, or because they "hadn't found their sound yet"? Or is it because they never had the time to write decent material prior to getting picked up, nor the guarantee that their music would even be listened to? I think once a band lands a record deal, and they start working in a legitimate studio, they are able to devote themselves to writing their music which delivers a better end result.

    If you don't agree with all that, and maybe are thinking "well I have shitloads of free-time and none of that's true for me", I suggest trying to pick up an instrument and play it; it's far easier than you think. Becoming a good musician isn't a matter of technical ability or public image, it's a matter of having the will to do it.

    I'm not saying that I'm a good musician by any means, I am a mediocre musician. But the guy who taught me how to play guitar is a fucking genius on the guitar, but he's a shut-in who does nothing but play world of warcraft all day and tweak on adderall. He's not the best looking guy, but he's a fucking prodigy when it comes to the guitar - and he wasn't just naturally born to play the guitar, he put effort in to it back when he was a teenager. Before there was internet to waste his life away on, he was wasting his life away listening to the radio and playing guitar. I've tried talking him in to putting some of his stuff online, or trying to get in to a band, but ultimately he just doesn't have the motivation or the will to do that.

    Then I see and hear all the time bands getting famous over youtube, and their music is really only 'good', not great (a lot of its downright garbage). If half the people out there with aspirations to become a musician or w/e they've always wanted to be went out and actually started doing it, the music industry (and society as a whole) wouldn't be in the toilet that it's in.

    We look back at bands from the 60s and 70s and look at them as Gods, but really they were just completely normal people who happened to start playing an instrument when they were a teenager. Music as a whole took a slump in the late 80s because too many morons were admiring the fame that came with being a musician and weren't in it for the right reasons, and this idiocy rubbed off on a lot of other people as well. Although, the music-centered culture rebounded in the early 90s to bring us grunge and new genres, a lot of which are really good.

    The musical culture is undoubtedly in another slump right now, and has been since at least the early 2000s. I just hope that since a rebound was possible in the past, that a rebound is possible again, and hopefully we won't be stuck indefinitely with shit music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    the reason i think "mainstream" bands usually sound better than underground bands (or whatever you want to call them) is because if you're in a band, you'd almost need that guarantee of a record deal before you can devote yourself to the time it takes to write good material.
    popular music is popular because it is popular




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    thats why i only listen to indie bands because they give me the freeedom of choosing what to listen to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garfield View Post
    thats why i only listen to indie bands because they give me the freeedom of choosing what to listen to
    There is good trolling and bad trolling.
    When you say something as bait to trick people into believing you on such a minor level that it is hardly noticed by anyone but yourself, it's bad trolling, because it just means you're not confident enough to share real opinions about yourself.

    Good trolling is when you trick someone and then get them to freak out like a child; this is good trolling because its funny
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    There is good trolling and bad trolling.
    When you say something as bait to trick people into believing you on such a minor level that it is hardly noticed by anyone but yourself, it's bad trolling, because it just means you're not confident enough to share real opinions about yourself.

    Good trolling is when you trick someone and then get them to freak out like a child; this is good trolling because its funny
    you mean irony, youre not talking bout trolling youve been misinformed once again, go look it up on wikipedia
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    if at anytime i think they may try to be sending a message i can just turn it off, unlike these megasuperneonazibands i cant turn them off, theyre fucking everywhere, tv, cars, radio, somebody elses car, grocery stores, comcast on demand
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    Quote Originally Posted by lnopia the great View Post
    popular music is popular because it is popular
    have you ever tried playing a musical instrument before?
    It's not like riding a bicycle; if you don't practice every day (or at least once a week) you actually lose skill.
    Most people don't have the time to throw away learning to play an instrument, and getting really good with that instrument. However, if you have a record deal, then you are getting paid to throw time away learning the instrument to mastership -- therefore, mainstream rock bands tend to be better than underground (the exception of course is the majority of rock bands for the past 10 years)
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    i can play the cock flute, the violin on a womans vagina,a nd the Anal Drum. if u were wondering (very twisted i know...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    have you ever tried playing a musical instrument before?
    It's not like riding a bicycle; if you don't practice every day (or at least once a week) you actually lose skill.
    Most people don't have the time to throw away learning to play an instrument, and getting really good with that instrument. However, if you have a record deal, then you are getting paid to throw time away learning the instrument to mastership -- therefore, mainstream rock bands tend to be better than underground (the exception of course is the majority of rock bands for the past 10 years)

    look at this guy thinking that popular music is the most talented




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    Quote Originally Posted by lnopia the great View Post
    look at this guy thinking that popular music is the most talented
    nah i'm talking about big name classic rock bands like Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd...
    I've yet to find an underground band that's at par with Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd
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