anybody done this before?

dont worry i dont listen to horoscopes i was just being ironic, were still compatible baby

[maks]

2 button interface, the 'start' button (despite how dumb it's name is, it is useful as fuck), control panel, etc

I don't understand why everything in Mac OS is organized by "file, edit, options, etc" and which "file/edit/options/etc" depends on which window you're in, so getting to any sort of a root menu (especially when you have multiple windows opened up) becomes a pain in the ass.

Because putting it on every window is a waste of valuable screen real estate. if you can't figure out that the bar at the top reflects which window is active maybe you shouldn't be using a computer in the first place

The Windows OS has its flaws, but its interface just makes more sense than Mac -- much more sense than some esoteric "double click here or click a combination of funny looking esoteric symbols on the keyboard like a clover-leaf that simply aren't congruent with any sort of logic". The "Windows" button sort of make's sense - it 'windows' out of whatever 'window' you are in. But the clover leaf button? Why the fuck is it a clover leaf?

Going through elementary school in the mid 90s, I had more than one opportunity to test out both the mac and windows OS, and you want to know which one made more sense, and the one which every peer of mine agreed as being 'better' to use? Windows OS.

I remember thinking as early as 5 years old, "Why the fuck does this button do this?" when using a macintosh, but then attempting to do the same thing on windows and being able to figure it out without issue.

So you made your descision based on looks and layout over core functionality, the same thing people like to criticize apple users for?

The people who designed the windows OS interface designed it to be more intuitive. Ultimately, once you have become so familiar with both operating systems that you know how to do everything on both, it's just a matter of how fast each is. So what does Mac bring to the table?
Well, Mac "doesn't" have viruses, because no one who matters uses Macs so who the fuck would write viruses for Macs?

It doesn't have virus problems for the same reason linux doesn't, because it's a better, more secure, more solid system at every level.

A shitload of software isn't compatible with Macs, and Mac is the one who dropped the ball on this one as far as I'm concerned...

Actually when you factor in how easy it is to run or port over *nix software OSX has a much larger library of programs than Windows does.

Mac STILL isn't fully compatible with Flash and such -- these are things that have been around for more than 10 years; it's time to get with the fucking program

what the christ are you talking about? you're not going to win arguments by hardcore just making shit up. flash works exactly the same as it does on any other desktop OS and has since I started using osx in 2006.

[Plug Drugs]

what the christ are you talking about? you're not going to win arguments by hardcore just making shit up. flash works exactly the same as it does on any other desktop OS and has since I started using osx in 2006.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=659567

[Plug Drugs]

that link is full of hate against microsoft, some even accusing microsoft of paying adobe to not make flash compatible with anything besides windows; but all those gay ass mac users who are congregating on that forum can't seem to figure out why their macs are running adobe flash so shittily. Could it be because the Mac machine is wasting all its resources on a 'cool looking' interface and memory leaks?

[maks]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=659567

oh ok so one guy had an issue with flash 3 years ago and made a forum post about it, that's all the proof I need

[Plug Drugs]

oh ok so one guy had an issue with flash 3 years ago and made a forum post about it, that's all the proof I need

may i point out that that wasn't a forum dedicated to mac-bashing; that was a forum full of mac users
This was only back in 2009, and more than 2/3 of the 30 or so people who replied to that thread agreed or alluded to the fact that their macs were having trouble with flash

[maks]

that link is full of hate against microsoft, some even accusing microsoft of paying adobe to not make flash compatible with anything besides windows; but all those gay ass mac users who are congregating on that forum can't seem to figure out why their macs are running adobe flash so shittily. Could it be because the Mac machine is wasting all its resources on a 'cool looking' interface and memory leaks?

no, the 'cool looking' interface is less resource intensive than windows 7's aero bullshit. the only memory leaks I've ever seen are from firefox which (drumroll please) does the same shit on windows. I'll be honest I didn't real that thread I saw it was an ancient forum post and I was like 'he must be fucking kidding me' but I'd bet money that either this guy is trying to run a modern browser and flash plugin on an ancient machine or he did something to fuck it up himself. flash is pretty shitty on every platform but it's also no worse on the mac than any other os.

[maks]

may i point out that that wasn't a forum dedicated to mac-bashing; that was a forum full of mac users
This was only back in 2009, and more than 2/3 of the 30 or so people who replied to that thread agreed that their macs were having trouble with flash

so your conclusive proof that windows is better than osx is that a guy had a problem and posted on a forum about it

[Plug Drugs]

no, the 'cool looking' interface is less resource intensive than windows 7's aero bullshit.

windows 7's fancy interface was, in my opinion, only made in response to Mac's fancy interface.

Microsoft got scared of Apple, and started emulating them. This was a big mistake on microsoft's part; they should have just ignored apple instead of getting down into the gutter with them

[maks]

windows 7's fancy interface was, in my opinion, only made in response to Mac's fancy interface.

Microsoft got scared of Apple, and started emulating them. This was a big mistake on microsoft's part; they should have just ignored apple instead of getting down into the gutter with them

windows was made in response to the mac's fancy interface. if it wasn't for apple you would be running DOS. deal with it.

can you two fags take this to the herpetarium

[maks]

microsoft's flagship product before apple brought gui's to the desktop



microsoft's flagship product in 2012 if apple had never existed

with a higher version number

[Plug Drugs]

so your conclusive proof that windows is better than osx is that a guy had a problem and posted on a forum about it

it seems more like a democratically agreed upon fact in that thread that macs struggle with flash; and the issue at hand is just trying to understand why macs struggle with flash as opposed to if they struggle with flash.
Sure, PCs running windows have many problems, but most of the problems can be attributed to human error - and if you know what you're doing, these problems can be fixed yourself. On a Mac, when you have a serious problem, what do you do? Other than run to the Mac store and pay hundreds of dollars to get a problem fixed with the core mac software.

[Plug Drugs]

windows was made in response to the mac's fancy interface. if it wasn't for apple you would be running DOS. deal with it.

there were many exchanges between apple and microsoft in the early days; you can equally blame both of them for ripping off the other back during those days.

The real point is, microsoft came out on top when PCs were actually becoming a widespread household item (mid to late 90s and most of the 2000s), and that was for a good reason: THE MAC OS BACK THEN SUCKED SO MUCH ASS IT MAKES MY HEAD SPIN

apple may have outgrown their shitty jewish ways of tricking consumers into buying garbage, but I can't forgive them for it

[maks]

it seems more like a democratically agreed upon fact in that thread that macs struggle with flash; and the issue at hand is just trying to understand why macs struggle with flash as opposed to if they struggle with flash.

it's a mac forum full of mac users it would be a little out of place for them to complain about bad flash performance on their TSR 80's don't you think?

Sure, PCs running windows have many problems, but most of the problems can be attributed to human error - and if you know what you're doing, these problems can be fixed yourself. On a Mac, when you have a serious problem, what do you do? Other than run to the Mac store and pay hundreds of dollars to get a problem fixed with the core mac software.

as a guy who works on these sorts of problems all day long for a living and stuff, only about half can be attributed to human error, the rest can be attributed to windows being shit. in 6 years I've never had a problem that required me to reinstall OSX, Windows on the other hand I generally reinstall about once a year.

[elezzzark]

I don't care what Plug Drugs says, he is kind of a windows preacher.

Well, i have serious critics against Apple and their products are:

-No Support for Cross-Platform Developers.
-No Friendly Support to compile apps for iOS and Mac for testing purpose until pay $ 99 dollars per year.
-Windows and Linux can play VMWare Player, but no for mac, there an workaround is VMWare Fusion which is NOT free.
-Buying Apple Products make you an easy developer for other apple products for runtime, but not so easy if you deploy cross platform.
-Requires Certificate from iOS developer porgram before to compile .ipa (ridiculous)
-No Compatible OSX for Virtual Machine on non-apple computers.

[maks]

I don't care what Plug Drugs says, he is kind of a windows preacher.

Well, i have serious critics against Apple and their products are:

-No Support for Cross-Platform Developers.
-No Friendly Support to compile apps for iOS and Mac for testing purpose until pay $ 99 dollars per year.
-Windows and Linux can play VMWare Player, but no for mac, there an workaround is VMWare Fusion which is NOT free.
-Buying Apple Products make you an easy developer for other apple products for runtime, but not so easy if you deploy cross platform.
-No Compatible OSX for Virtual Machine on non-apple computers.

see these are valid complaints. I wish plug drugs would do this instead of making shit up all the time, I don't want to argue with him but I feel like I have to set him straight.

Also they ruined the Macbook Pro. A professional grade laptop should not use SSD exclusively, nor should it's fucking RAM be soldered in. I'm pretty sure I've purchased my last Mac.

[maks]

by the way fuck vmware, virtualbox is free on every platform and has a lot more features than vmware player

[elezzzark]

Apple is basically same to Nintendo that never work for third party.

[Plug Drugs]

-No Support for Cross-Platform Developers.

that's because apple is a bunch of dirty jews who want to write ALL mac software under their license so they can keep ALL the money, muwahahaha beautiful money

-No Friendly Support to compile apps for iOS and Mac for testing purpose until pay $ 99 dollars per year.

Again, BEAUTIFUL money, MUWAHAHAHAHAHA

-Windows and Linux can play VMWare Player, but no for mac, there an workaround is VMWare Fusion which is NOT free.

BEAUTIFUL money MWAHAHAHAHA

[elezzzark]

by the way fuck vmware, virtualbox is free on every platform and has a lot more features than vmware player

I know, but i'm developing a Blackberry Playbook apps which requires to use VMware as tablet simulator to install my .bar via local IP.

[elezzzark]

Apple is basically same to Nintendo that never work for third party.

An exception, iTunes for Windows because Apple wouldn't to face the huge complaints from windows users and Safari for windows it sucks, why they would to keep developing Safari for windows, it really sucks and no one uses it, besides Safari for Mac is MUCH BETTER than Safari for windows.

[elezzzark]

Actually, i'm glad about HTML5, i don't really need to configure and deploy app for mac.

[Plug Drugs]

no one would have ever bought an ipod if the marketplace software for it was mac-exclusive

just more evidence that apple are dirty jews just trying to make money

[maks]

that's because apple is a bunch of dirty jews who want to write ALL mac software under their license so they can keep ALL the money, muwahahaha beautiful money


Again, BEAUTIFUL money, MUWAHAHAHAHAHA

BEAUTIFUL money MWAHAHAHAHA

yeah know who never cared about making money? bill gates, richest man in the world.

hey where's the fully featured development environment microsoft makes available for free to anyone running windows?

oh here it is it's $500
http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudi...oducts/pricing

I know, but i'm developing a Blackberry Playbook apps which requires to use VMware as tablet simulator to install my .bar via local IP.

virtualbox usually does a pretty good job of running VMware appliances, it supports all the same image file formats

they were the top corporation in the world at that point, and any business venture was entirely open to them. Some young douchebag comes up to them and says "let's make a little rectangular piece of shit and see if it catches on", they thought "why the fuck not"

microsoft has never come close to being the top corporation in the world, walmart/exxon mobil/shell routinely compete for that spot in recent years, Microsoft can barely break the top 50 in the U.S. let alone the world, they are doing quite a bit BETTER now than they were 10 years ago though

[elezzzark]

yeah know who never cared about making money? bill gates, richest man in the world.

hey where's the fully featured development environment microsoft makes available for free to anyone running windows?

oh here it is it's $500
http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudi...oducts/pricing



virtualbox usually does a pretty good job of running VMware appliances, it supports all the same image file formats

Microsoft is horrible and closed-mind company, im using windows because we are living the horrible world.



Oh yes? i will try virtualbox if supports .vmx files when i get chance

[maks]

Microsoft is horrible and closed-mind company, im using windows because we are living the horrible world.



Oh yes? i will try virtualbox if supports .vmx files when i get chance

I can confirm that it supports vmx images.

[elezzzark]

I will try thx