anybody done this before?

and people think he is some kind of visionary

steve wozniak was the real visionary, he saw the potential for a personal computing market before anyone else, steve jobs was just a marketing genius

[maks]

and people think he is some kind of visionary

steve wozniak was the real visionary, he saw the potential for a personal computing market before anyone else, steve jobs was just a marketing genius

a marketing genius is a visionary. without him wozniak never would have made it out of the garage.

a marketing genius is a visionary. without him wozniak never would have made it out of the garage.

nah marketing geniuses are a dime a dozen in the corporate world, well maybe not a dime a dozen, but wozniak had the idea to bring computers to ordinary people and none of the companies really understood why people would want personal computers

Steve Jobs came back and turned Apple around with all the "think different" advertising crap which worked really well for creating their own niche market, but honestly do we even know if it was Steve Jobs that came up with all of that? I read that many employees accused him of taking credit for things that he didn't come up with, or at least not giving the credit to the people who came up with the ideas. Who knows, maybe he was a genius and a visionary, maybe he was just a shrewd businessman who knew to steal a good idea when he saw one.

I just really don't like Steve Jobs and all the pretentious Apple hipster fanboys

yeah, Mac OS X is good, I think that has more to do with it being Unix based than with Apple though

[jon]

the woz would have probably just worked quietly and dilligently at microsoft instead, which may have been better for all of us

e.g. maybe we wouldn't hate them so much if they were able to fire 100 programmers, slash prices, and get it right the first time, all because woz was a development powerhouse

[jon]

that aside, charity is for faggots, steve jobs did virtually everything right once he got back to apple, and bill gates is a fucking socialist prick

that aside, charity is for faggots, steve jobs did virtually everything right once he got back to apple, and bill gates is a fucking socialist prick

a poor guy angry at a rich guy who wants to willingly give away his money to the poor guys like him

even if you disagree on an economic basis, i dont understand how you can look at him in such disgust

[jon]

charities are for people with an agenda who need to put on that they have a soft touch for appearances

and the recipients of charitable benefits lose their will to earn for themselves, which they're forbidden from doing legally by other means, such as the minimum wage

consequently the latter have little self-respect which makes it all the more difficult to break the cycle and all the easier for them to be manipulated by the former

[maks]

charities are for people with an agenda who need to put on that they have a soft touch for appearances

and the recipients of charitable benefits lose their will to earn for themselves, which they're forbidden from doing legally by other means, such as the minimum wage

consequently the latter have little self-respect which makes it all the more difficult to break the cycle and all the easier for them to be manipulated by the former

I love how you make rand paul look like barney frank

[blumpkin blownuts]

charities are for people with an agenda who need to put on that they have a soft touch for appearances

and the recipients of charitable benefits lose their will to earn for themselves, which they're forbidden from doing legally by other means, such as the minimum wage

consequently the latter have little self-respect which makes it all the more difficult to break the cycle and all the easier for them to be manipulated by the former

with that kind of cynicism and ignorant generalization about charity donors, I wonder if you've volunteered for anything in your life (without expecting something back) did your parents even make you do shit around the house as a kid?

i've never even put on a resume i volunteered at a food bank the 2 years i was unemployed. i did it primarily because there was nothing to do except help people for free, or otherwise just go impress posters on ytmnd forums. i supose i also did it to network for job opps but that led to shit

some people just give a fuck about people they'll never meet.

ask anyone one question: If you could choose to wake up tomorrow with $20 under your pillow, or otherwise, only get $10 under your pillow but everyone else in your area gets $10 too, what do you choose?
That question can separate humans from savages like a fuckin knife blade

with that kind of cynicism and ignorant generalization about charity donors, I wonder if you've volunteered for anything in your life (without expecting something back) did your parents even make you do shit around the house as a kid?

i've never even put on a resume i volunteered at a food bank the 2 years i was unemployed. i did it primarily because there was nothing to do except help people for free, or otherwise just go impress posters on ytmnd forums. i supose i also did it to network for job opps but that led to shit

some people just give a fuck about people they'll never meet.

ask anyone one question: If you could choose to wake up tomorrow with $20 under your pillow, or otherwise, only get $10 under your pillow but everyone else in your area gets $10 too, what do you choose?
That question can separate humans from savages like a fuckin knife blade

I think a more potent question would be "would you rather have a million dollars or have ten thousand and give ten thousand dollars to 100 other people"

10 bucks is nothing to sweat over

[jon]

by looking at his vast wealth and deciding to open a foundation, the gates' effectively have stated "we have absolutely no imagination whatsoever" and "let's just throw money at someone else's problem"

there's no magic by which a subsidy works for private foundations and doesn't work for government; it just never works, period

[blumpkin blownuts]

there's no magic by which a subsidy works for private foundations and doesn't work for government; it just never works, period

farm subsidies used to be great for controlling food prices, until over 90% of our meat started coming from meat factories/CAFOs, and giant conglomerates monopolized everything from water rights to seed-grain availability to the ever-shrinking amount of family farms

farm subsidies used to be great for controlling food prices, until over 90% of our meat started coming from meat factories/CAFOs, and giant conglomerates monopolized everything from water rights to seed-grain availability to the ever-shrinking amount of family farms

did u just watch Food Inc? my mom keeps trying to get me to watch it

dont really care about the farm industry but its important stuff I guess

[maks]

nah marketing geniuses are a dime a dozen in the corporate world, well maybe not a dime a dozen, but wozniak had the idea to bring computers to ordinary people and none of the companies really understood why people would want personal computers

Steve Jobs came back and turned Apple around with all the "think different" advertising crap which worked really well for creating their own niche market, but honestly do we even know if it was Steve Jobs that came up with all of that? I read that many employees accused him of taking credit for things that he didn't come up with, or at least not giving the credit to the people who came up with the ideas. Who knows, maybe he was a genius and a visionary, maybe he was just a shrewd businessman who knew to steal a good idea when he saw one.

I just really don't like Steve Jobs and all the pretentious Apple hipster fanboys

yeah, Mac OS X is good, I think that has more to do with it being Unix based than with Apple though

I don't know about all of that, but I do know apple was failing, on the ropes, but once Steve Jobs was brought back in they became unbelievably successful and now have more liquid assets than the US government

[blumpkin blownuts]

and people think he is some kind of visionary

steve wozniak was the real visionary, he saw the potential for a personal computing market before anyone else, steve jobs was just a marketing genius

agreed. I still have a IIgs in storage somewhere with the woz sig