anybody done this before?

It doesn't have virus problems for the same reason linux doesn't, because it's a better, more secure, more solid system at every level.

unix based operating systems are more secure but let's not overlook market share as being a pretty big reason

if people had more reason to target Unix based operating systems Apple wouldn't be claiming "immunity" to viruses for very long, Windows IS less secure and has a far larger market share, so it makes sense to exploit it since it's easier and gives access to a much larger "audience"

yeah know who never cared about making money? bill gates, richest man in the world.

bill gates gives lots of his money away

steve jobs clutched his covetously and probably wore it in a medallion of jew gold around his neck until he died and went to hell for parking his mercedes crooked in handicap spots

An exception, iTunes for Windows because Apple wouldn't to face the huge complaints from windows users and Safari for windows it sucks, why they would to keep developing Safari for windows, it really sucks and no one uses it, besides Safari for Mac is MUCH BETTER than Safari for windows.

if you are really obsessed with being a hipster minority snob just get opera it is the best browser by far IMO

[elezzzark]

bill gates gives lots of his money away

steve jobs clutched his covetously and probably wore it in a medallion of jew gold around his neck until he died and went to hell for parking his mercedes crooked in handicap spots

That's true, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are visionaries, according to Bill Gates donated new houses in Africa.

Then, Steve Jobs.... NOTHING... when he died, the majority of apple faggots are making tribute to him for nothing. I don't believe he is a person who changed the world, besides Dennis who is creator of C programming language did change the world.

[elezzzark]

if you are really obsessed with being a hipster minority snob just get opera it is the best browser by far IMO

Yes, but no WebGL support until Opera needs to update it soon

[maks]

unix based operating systems are more secure but let's not overlook market share as being a pretty big reason

if people had more reason to target Unix based operating systems Apple wouldn't be claiming "immunity" to viruses for very long, Windows IS less secure and has a far larger market share, so it makes sense to exploit it since it's easier and gives access to a much larger "audience"

Yeah, Windows is a script kiddy's wet dream, easy to exploit and retardedly widespread.

bill gates gives lots of his money away

steve jobs clutched his covetously and probably wore it in a medallion of jew gold around his neck until he died and went to hell for parking his mercedes crooked in handicap spots

That's not a fair comparison, Bill Gates didn't get all altruistic until after he retired, Before that he was as ruthless and greedy as any other fortune 500 ceo. I'm sure if Steve Jobs hadn't died in office he would have gotten involved in charity work, what else are you going to do when you have more than you could ever possibly spend.

That's not a fair comparison, Bill Gates didn't get all altruistic until after he retired, Before that he was as ruthless and greedy as any other fortune 500 ceo. I'm sure if Steve Jobs hadn't died in office he would have gotten involved in charity work, what else are you going to do when you have more than you could ever possibly spend.

Bill Gates retired so that he COULD get started in charities, Steve Jobs never donated to charity, eliminated Apple charity programs when they brought him back to work there in 97 saying he wanted to "make the company profitable" and then never reinstated them even after all their success, and from what I've heard never had any interest in charities. he spent all his money on sports cars and black turtlenecks. there is no record at all of him giving any of his 8 billion dollars to charity.

he's also notorious for treating his employees like shit

and people think he is some kind of visionary

steve wozniak was the real visionary, he saw the potential for a personal computing market before anyone else, steve jobs was just a marketing genius

[maks]

Bill Gates retired so that he COULD get started in charities, Steve Jobs never donated to charity, eliminated Apple charity programs when they brought him back to work there in 97 saying he wanted to "make the company profitable" and then never reinstated them even after all their success, and from what I've heard never had any interest in charities. he spent all his money on sports cars and black turtlenecks. there is no record at all of him giving any of his 8 billion dollars to charity.

He could have given anonymously, I find it hard to believe that a ghuddist was that greedy. idc either way though, I'm a fan of his operating system I couldn't give a fuck about the man. I'm a techie, I like Wozniak.

[maks]

and people think he is some kind of visionary

steve wozniak was the real visionary, he saw the potential for a personal computing market before anyone else, steve jobs was just a marketing genius

a marketing genius is a visionary. without him wozniak never would have made it out of the garage.

a marketing genius is a visionary. without him wozniak never would have made it out of the garage.

nah marketing geniuses are a dime a dozen in the corporate world, well maybe not a dime a dozen, but wozniak had the idea to bring computers to ordinary people and none of the companies really understood why people would want personal computers

Steve Jobs came back and turned Apple around with all the "think different" advertising crap which worked really well for creating their own niche market, but honestly do we even know if it was Steve Jobs that came up with all of that? I read that many employees accused him of taking credit for things that he didn't come up with, or at least not giving the credit to the people who came up with the ideas. Who knows, maybe he was a genius and a visionary, maybe he was just a shrewd businessman who knew to steal a good idea when he saw one.

I just really don't like Steve Jobs and all the pretentious Apple hipster fanboys

yeah, Mac OS X is good, I think that has more to do with it being Unix based than with Apple though

[jon]

i don't think that's true; wozinak is like carmichael, nearly one with the machine

you can attach a programmer like either of those two to virtually any project and any steve-jobs or john-romero personality anywhere in any field, and they will earn their keep

[jon]

the woz would have probably just worked quietly and dilligently at microsoft instead, which may have been better for all of us

e.g. maybe we wouldn't hate them so much if they were able to fire 100 programmers, slash prices, and get it right the first time, all because woz was a development powerhouse

[jon]

that aside, charity is for faggots, steve jobs did virtually everything right once he got back to apple, and bill gates is a fucking socialist prick

[jon]

charities are for people with an agenda who need to put on that they have a soft touch for appearances

and the recipients of charitable benefits lose their will to earn for themselves, which they're forbidden from doing legally by other means, such as the minimum wage

consequently the latter have little self-respect which makes it all the more difficult to break the cycle and all the easier for them to be manipulated by the former

[jon]

by looking at his vast wealth and deciding to open a foundation, the gates' effectively have stated "we have absolutely no imagination whatsoever" and "let's just throw money at someone else's problem"

there's no magic by which a subsidy works for private foundations and doesn't work for government; it just never works, period

[boobz]

Also they ruined the Macbook Pro. A professional grade laptop should not use SSD exclusively, nor should it's fucking RAM be soldered in. I'm pretty sure I've purchased my last Mac.

my thoughts exactly. i saw the press release for the new macbook pro and thought "i've bought my last one" (i own both an iMac 27" i5 2010 model and macbook pro (early 2012).
I can live without an optical drive most of the time, but soldered ram, only SSD, nah...

[boobz]

PRAISE YOUR LORD!!!

[maks]

nah marketing geniuses are a dime a dozen in the corporate world, well maybe not a dime a dozen, but wozniak had the idea to bring computers to ordinary people and none of the companies really understood why people would want personal computers

Steve Jobs came back and turned Apple around with all the "think different" advertising crap which worked really well for creating their own niche market, but honestly do we even know if it was Steve Jobs that came up with all of that? I read that many employees accused him of taking credit for things that he didn't come up with, or at least not giving the credit to the people who came up with the ideas. Who knows, maybe he was a genius and a visionary, maybe he was just a shrewd businessman who knew to steal a good idea when he saw one.

I just really don't like Steve Jobs and all the pretentious Apple hipster fanboys

yeah, Mac OS X is good, I think that has more to do with it being Unix based than with Apple though

I don't know about all of that, but I do know apple was failing, on the ropes, but once Steve Jobs was brought back in they became unbelievably successful and now have more liquid assets than the US government

[maks]

charities are for people with an agenda who need to put on that they have a soft touch for appearances

and the recipients of charitable benefits lose their will to earn for themselves, which they're forbidden from doing legally by other means, such as the minimum wage

consequently the latter have little self-respect which makes it all the more difficult to break the cycle and all the easier for them to be manipulated by the former

I love how you make rand paul look like barney frank

let's argue about dead billonare assholes who stole all there ideas from xerox engineers in the 80's

4 page non girl thread

[sex with dead people]

Mega dork thread.

[blumpkin blownuts]

windows was made in response to the mac's fancy interface. if it wasn't for apple you would be running DOS. deal with it.

which was in turn "based on" xerox alto, except that the alto's mouse had 3x as many buttons as an apple mouse does

[blumpkin blownuts]

you just said a bunch of shit and then said "it happens all the time" to someone whose job it was to write a modern bootloader and real time operating system for the blackfin 548

so, no

and the assembler I wrote for the RISC CPU I designed (largely in TTL) for a term project was custom-designed to support its own instruction set. Someone else wrote a compiler that allowed it to run simplistic C programs, on my instruction set.
You're still not convincing me that an embedded system can process an HLL-compiled program without it being first broken down into instructions native to the architecture.

[blumpkin blownuts]

Whats the point to even benchmarking data throughput anyway, if the same bit of HLL source all runs the at same speed across multiple architectures?

[blumpkin blownuts]

I don't care what Plug Drugs says, he is kind of a windows preacher.

Well, i have serious critics against Apple and their products are:

-No Support for Cross-Platform Developers.
-No Friendly Support to compile apps for iOS and Mac for testing purpose until pay $ 99 dollars per year.
-Windows and Linux can play VMWare Player, but no for mac, there an workaround is VMWare Fusion which is NOT free.
-Buying Apple Products make you an easy developer for other apple products for runtime, but not so easy if you deploy cross platform.
-Requires Certificate from iOS developer porgram before to compile .ipa (ridiculous)
-No Compatible OSX for Virtual Machine on non-apple computers.

I have my own complaints.
I should be able to right-click on an Apple PC.
I should also have a command-line interface, even if it's just reduced to a shell-within-a-gui-shell.
Context "keyboards" should produce the same letter I touch, not the letter two "keys" to the right.
And all of their "smart" dumbterminals, ipad ipod ibook wtf/e that people now use for telephones are purposefully designed to not be rugged in the least - no clamshell designs, no thought at all put towards protecting the screen.
It's hell for the consumer, but it's just everyday business sense. If your product doesn't wear out or go out-of-fashion after too long, then you won't be able to make much money from repeat customers, particularly when the vast majority of a population is forced towards frugality by a shit economy.

[blumpkin blownuts]

I don't care what Plug Drugs says, he is kind of a windows preacher.

Well, i have serious critics against Apple and their products are:

-No Support for Cross-Platform Developers.
-No Friendly Support to compile apps for iOS and Mac for testing purpose until pay $ 99 dollars per year.
-Windows and Linux can play VMWare Player, but no for mac, there an workaround is VMWare Fusion which is NOT free.
-Buying Apple Products make you an easy developer for other apple products for runtime, but not so easy if you deploy cross platform.
-Requires Certificate from iOS developer porgram before to compile .ipa (ridiculous)
-No Compatible OSX for Virtual Machine on non-apple computers.

Also compiling a list of "experts" who jumped into the crock of total shit that Apples can't get viruses/malware.
Harmful software follows consumer trends like a fucking shadow. Apple finally got back on the radar, now people are writing harmful programs for Apple.
Same story with Symantec/McAfee and AVAST. Now that Avast is closing in on No.2 market share, viruses are being written to interfere with Avast processes in particular, as they did for the two previously-mentioned leading antivirus products for over a decade.

[blumpkin blownuts]

and people think he is some kind of visionary

steve wozniak was the real visionary, he saw the potential for a personal computing market before anyone else, steve jobs was just a marketing genius

agreed. I still have a IIgs in storage somewhere with the woz sig